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The break doesn't need to be hard - we were all so ignorant in the 90's.

Corey's soft break changed the game forever.

Your break - do what you want.

Nobody every said you break too hard, thats illegal, then they find out soft breaking is better and all of a sudden -- - you break too soft. Cowards
The soft break is not always the best in 9-ball and in 8-ball, those sissy breakers are headed for disaster...
 
FYI, Accu-stats only dates to the mid-1980s. Wade Crane's best came even before that. This match is from a senior event in 1996. Toby Sweet, his opponent was a stone cold killer, and quite possibly Wade Crane's equal in their respective primes,
Hence, my question regarding Crane's power in younger years.
 
Hence, my question regarding Crane's power in younger years.
I'd say that Wade Crane broke as hard as just about anyone in the early 1980s. Maybe 1982 US Open 9-ball champion David Howard broke harder than Wade Crane, but if so, not by much. I seem to remember that David was the first ever to hit 30 miles per hour on the radar gun with his 9ball break.
 
In his era doesn't tell us how good it was by modern standards, though...
Unless you can go back in time, you don't know. But, when Irving Crane says Lassiter had a very good break, I take that as the truth. Crane said it when they met at Atlantic City to play nine ball, seven ball, and eight ball.
 
I'd say that Wade Crane broke as hard as just about anyone in the early 1980s. Maybe 1982 US Open 9-ball champion David Howard broke harder than Wade Crane, but if so, not by much. I seem to remember that David was the first ever to hit 30 miles per hour on the radar gun with his 9ball break.
Bustamente's hardest break was 34 mph, Howard's was 31 mph when the got clocked in the early 90'ies.Unless you can go back in time, you don't know. But, when Irving Crane says Lassiter had a very good break, I take that as the truth. Crane said it when they met at Atlantic City to play nine ball, seven ball, and eight ball
To me, Incadona never pointing out Luther's break while saying that Wade had the best one in the past, tells the story for me...
 
Bustamente's hardest break was 34 mph, Howard's was 31 mph when the got clocked in the early 90'ies.Unless you can go back in time, you don't know. But, when Irving Crane says Lassiter had a very good break, I take that as the truth. Crane said it when they met at Atlantic City to play nine ball, seven ball, and eight ball

To me, Incadona never pointing out Luther's break while saying that Wade had the best one in the past, tells the story for me...
Oh, I think it's near certain that Wade Crane and David Howard both broke the balls better than Lassiter, but Lassiter had a good one, too. I remember Bustie's 34 mph but both Jeff DeLuna and Mike Dechaine have been clocked at 38 mph, and CJ Wiley has posted about having seen Dechaine's effort live.

In fact, at Super Billiards Expo, perhaps 2016, there was a booth that had a table and a radar gun. Mike Dechaine would proposition the side-betters that given 10 attempts, he would have at least one break of 35+ miles an hour. It was a bet he usually won.

FYI, Irving Crane and I were friends and the reason I know about Johnny Irish's 12-pack against him is that Irving told me about it.
 
Toby had a way of staying under the radar, but the big boys down in Florida all knew who he was.
True story!

The biggest unkept secret in the country

There are so many players people haven’t heard of or have forgotten about that were champions.

Mike Carrela
Denny Searcy
Marcel Camp
Sammy Blumenthal
Ted Elias
On and on
 
I never heard about a 38 mph break, of course that doesn't mean there never was one excecuted.

Looking the way the balls move doesn't suggest to me that Dechaines break was harder or even as hard as Bustamante's though...
 
There are so many players people haven’t heard of or have forgotten about that were champions.

Mike Carrela
Denny Searcy
Marcel Camp
Sammy Blumenthal
Ted Elias
On and on
Grey Stevens, Richie Florence, Ed Kelly, Bernie Schwartz and Johnny Ervolino were all stone cold killers. Kelly played all games at the highest level. He was long considered the best All Around player alive. Searcy challenged the world and they didn't have to like it. He cleaned house playing Payball with all the world champions. Schwartz at one time was considered one of the two or three best 9-Ballers alive. Ervolino would play anybody and they could bet what they wanted. He was a much feared money player at One Pocket and 14.1. He went to Toledo and beat Teddie Elias on his home table for $7,000 in one game to 200. 1960's money!! Marcel Camp was a mentor and tutor to all the top One Pocket players of his era. Many times good 9-Ball players would match up at One Pocket and one stipulation was Marcel could coach them. Sammy Blumenthal was the best American snooker player for a long time, but Chenier came down from Canada and beat him in Jacksonville. Richie Florence was long considered the best 9-Ball player on the West Coast, even over Keith and Cole. Greg Stevens spotted everybody at LeCue in Houston. The seven or eight ball meant nothing to him.

When Kelly was on the road with Ronnie they met up with Billy Johnson aka Wade Crane in Georgia. Kelly and Billy played for several days and broke close to even in the end. When Kelly came back to California, he told me Billy/Wade was the best 9-Ball player in the country. And Kelly had played everybody!

Among the older generation there was Johnny Irish from New York, George Rood from Dayton and Don Willis. Irish was the best money player alive until Rags came along and they didn't play each other. Irish mentored all the top 7/11 stars like Ervolino, Jersey Red, Boston Shorty, Richie Ambrose and New York Blackie. I actually played Irish some $2 9-Ball in the early 60's at 7/11. Had no idea who he was and didn't care. He was old then and beat me out of my $10 a few times :). George Rood traveled with Lassiter and Don Willis at different times. He was considered their equal and had beaten (and lost to) both of them before partnering up. No one ever came through Dayton and beat the retired road man George Rood! He beat all comers until the road men avoided him like the plague. Willis was simply the best hustler of his era, pre Jack Cooney. He played all games including horseshoes and ping pong. And he beat the world champs at those games. He beat good ping pong players using a coke bottle! No one really knows how good he was at pool (maybe Lassiter and Rood did) because he hid his speed so well. He loved to play in ring games where the money balls (5 & 9) spotted up if made out of turn. His specialty was making the money balls on combinations and billiards, and he made it look like he was just getting lucky. I watched him do it a couple of times and was amazed by the shots he could pull off. It had to be luck but it wasn't! Willis was also a great sports handicapper and he spent much of his senior years in Vegas beating the books. He would study the small colleges and get an edge, but that's another story. He once told me that baseball and (small) college football were the easiest ones for him to beat.
 
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I'd say that Wade Crane broke as hard as just about anyone in the early 1980s. Maybe 1982 US Open 9-ball champion David Howard broke harder than Wade Crane, but if so, not by much. I seem to remember that David was the first ever to hit 30 miles per hour on the radar gun with his 9ball break.
The hardest breaks were probably Wade Crane, David Howard, Danny Medina, Tony Ellin and George Breedlove. I actually think George, who was not that big a guy, could hit them harder than anyone else, before he dislocated his shoulder. It hurt my ears if I was too close when he broke! No one else could do that.

I watched Lassiter play 9-Ball many times. He won more 9-Ball titles than anyone else at that time (1960's). I never thought his break was particularly hard. No question Richie Florence broke harder! Richie Ambrose also had a thundering break shot. Of course it was the era of push-out 9-Ball and Lassiter was the master of that game. He also had the best cue ball control and rarely missed a ball. Even the big breakers could not overcome his complete game.
 
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FYI, Accu-stats only dates to the mid-1980s. Wade Crane's best came even before that. This match is from a senior event in 1996. Toby Sweet, his opponent was a stone cold killer, and quite possibly Wade Crane's equal in their respective primes,
They lived in two different pool worlds. Toby was careful not to give away his speed, even though he often played very good players. Wade was high profile on the East Coast and if Toby beat him (or even came close) he wouldn't ever get a game without giving up a spot. Wade wanted to play the best players and beat them, and he did! He was number one on the East Coast when Richie ruled out West. I guess Greg Stevens and Norman Hitchcock (almost forgot about him) were the two best 9-Ballers in the middle of the country until Buddy came along.
 
I never heard about a 38 mph break, of course that doesn't mean there never was one excecuted.

Looking the way the balls move doesn't suggest to me that Dechaines break was harder or even as hard as Bustamante's though...
Did you read the post? CJ Wiley was there when Mike Dechaine hit 38 mph on the radar gun and has mentioned it. That's a first-hand, credible witness. I was present for a 37 mph by Dechaine at Super Billiards Expo, although it came in an exhibition and not in a tournament. Having watched all of them live countless times, I can tell you that Dechaine and DeLuna both broke harder than Bustamante.
 
They lived in two different pool worlds. Toby was careful not to give away his speed, even though he often played very good players. Wade was high profile on the East Coast and if Toby beat him (or even came close) he wouldn't ever get a game without giving up a spot. Wade wanted to play the best players and beat them, and he did! He was number one on the East Coast when Richie ruled out West. I guess Greg Stevens and Norman Hitchcock (almost forgot about him) were the two best 9-Ballers in the middle of the country until Buddy came along.
I didn't get to see Toby Sweet play until 1995, when he was a little past his prime, but he certainly wowed me with a very convincing win over Rempe,
 
Oh, I think it's near certain that Wade Crane and David Howard both broke the balls better than Lassiter, but Lassiter had a good one, too. I remember Bustie's 34 mph but both Jeff DeLuna and Mike Dechaine have been clocked at 38 mph, and CJ Wiley has posted about having seen Dechaine's effort live.

In fact, at Super Billiards Expo, perhaps 2016, there was a booth that had a table and a radar gun. Mike Dechaine would proposition the side-betters that given 10 attempts, he would have at least one break of 35+ miles an hour. It was a bet he usually won.

FYI, Irving Crane and I were friends and the reason I know about Johnny Irish's 12-pack against him is that Irving told me about it.
I saw dechaine at that time
 
Did you read the post? CJ Wiley was there when Mike Dechaine hit 38 mph on the radar gun and has mentioned it. That's a first-hand, credible witness. I was present for a 37 mph by Dechaine at Super Billiards Expo, although it came in an exhibition and not in a tournament. Having watched all of them live countless times, I can tell you that Dechaine and DeLuna both broke harder than Bustamante.
Dechaines Cueball went probably 15'+ in the air a few times at the expo
 
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