A long comment on "aiming systems" ...

lfigueroa said:
This was one of the major issues I had with the system. All that pivoting is throwing your stroke offline -- a recipe for failure.

Lou Figueroa
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All that pivoting, Clueless Lou? The pivoting section on my DVD is only foundational to PRO ONE. Training with pivoting can last a day or a few weeks. If you had really studied and worked with my material, you'd know that. Pivoting has nothing to do with one's real play. In fact there is NO PIVOT at all in CTE. There is only the slightest of rotation because one is offset from the shot line as most every pro is that plays the game.

The whole to key to PRO ONE is the fact that there really is no pivoting in the mechanical sense. It is just see and shoot.

And, for those with the DVD, if you do not like pivoting, go straight to PRO ONE and use the visuals. If you make the shot....then another....you are on your way.

I did not pivot one time at the U.S.Open. I would simply see a shot and shoot.

Learning has a lot to with desire.....and you had zero desire to learn CTE PRO ONE. The same goes for the Randy guy,imo.

Champ has it right...you do not understand.

It is hard for me to understand the make-up of people that just want to tear others down.

I really miss being a bigger part of AZ!!!

Stan Shuffett
 
lfigueroa said:
I doubt Stan lost money selling a 1,000 copies (as claimed), at $39 a copy.

As to the group -- forums are always changing, evolving and transient when it comes to membership. (The only thing that stays constant are the same topics that come up over and over for another run through the mill.) And the computer savvy have always been in the minority in pool halls. So, who are the good posters that have been run off or are leaving? If you're going to make the claim that "most of the good posters have already been run off, and more are leaving" how about some names?

Lou Figueroa
Neil must be
talking about PJ :-)
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No, I have not lost money on my DVD. However, I did put significant hours into my study of CTE. Also, I put over 10 grand into my production. If I do something, I like to do it well. I am very pleased with my work. If I were paid for my hourly time, I'd be making less than a dollar an hour. It's been a labor of love for me and something that I have been proud to share with other if they so choose.

You are the one that prompted me to mention a 1000 in DVD sales because one of your remarks was that I had only sold perhaps a few dozen.


CTE PRO ONE has been well-received and it is not going anywhere. The efforts to stamp it out will not succeed.

Stan
 
Neil said:
As far as the trolls, I couldn't disagree more. If no one does anything about them, then pretty soon, which this place is fast approaching, you have nothing left but the trolls. This used to be a great place to go to for info on pool. Nowdays, you mention AZB in the pool rooms and you get laughed at. It's great for selling a cue, otherwise, not much here anymore. If the people don't control the trolls, you lose valued membership, and thus viewers. Most of the good posters have already been run off, and more are leaving. Have fun with what's left.
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Neil, Good paragraph!!!
 
cfrandy said:
You ARE exactly right! Dan does indeed move his cue laterally after going DOWN on the shot at exactly 13:00 on the video! Now some may think going "down" on the shot is something other than moving from the stance to actually placing the bridge hand on the table...but "going down on the shot" means exactly that! Stan goes down from his stance, placing his bridge hand on the table, then pivots the cue laterally, practice strokes one time, and shoots!
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The pivoting section in my DVD shows one thing, that with proper visuals the shooter is only a slight rotation away from the center Cue ball and the shot line......Once this is understood, it's on to the natural way of shooting, PRO ONE.

With proper study one must surely get this concept.

Stan
 
stan shuffett said:
All that pivoting, Clueless Lou? The pivoting section on my DVD is only foundational to PRO ONE. Training with pivoting can last a day or a few weeks. If you had really studied and worked with my material, you'd know that. Pivoting has nothing to do with one's real play. In fact there is NO PIVOT at all in CTE. There is only the slightest of rotation because one is offset from the shot line as most every pro is that plays the game.

The whole to key to PRO ONE is the fact that there really is no pivoting in the mechanical sense. It is just see and shoot.

And, for those with the DVD, if you do not like pivoting, go straight to PRO ONE and use the visuals. If you make the shot....then another....you are on your way.

I did not pivot one time at the U.S.Open. I would simply see a shot and shoot.

Learning has a lot to with desire.....and you had zero desire to learn CTE PRO ONE. The same goes for the Randy guy,imo.

Champ has it right...you do not understand.

It is hard for me to understand the make-up of people that just want to tear others down.

I really miss being a bigger part of AZ!!!

Stan Shuffett
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Thanks for actually participating here, Stan. This is coming from someone who hasn't purchased your product or tried any variation of CTE. I'm also someone who isn't interested in tearing other people down. I expect that there are a great many of us who actively read the forums and are interested in this (or any other) topic, but don't jump into the playground with the rest. I am interested in learning things here on AZB, and it is a shame how others behave online. They do have to be the minority... as in real life, 90% of the noise is made by 10% of the people.

I hope you stop by occasionally, though I would understand if you didn't.
 
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stan shuffett said:
All that pivoting, Clueless Lou? The pivoting section on my DVD is only foundational to PRO ONE. Training with pivoting can last a day or a few weeks. If you had really studied and worked with my material, you'd know that. Pivoting has nothing to do with one's real play. In fact there is NO PIVOT at all in CTE. There is only the slightest of rotation because one is offset from the shot line as most every pro is that plays the game.

The whole to key to PRO ONE is the fact that there really is no pivoting in the mechanical sense. It is just see and shoot.

And, for those with the DVD, if you do not like pivoting, go straight to PRO ONE and use the visuals. If you make the shot....then another....you are on your way.

I did not pivot one time at the U.S.Open. I would simply see a shot and shoot.

Learning has a lot to with desire.....and you had zero desire to learn CTE PRO ONE. The same goes for the Randy guy,imo.

Champ has it right...you do not understand.

It is hard for me to understand the make-up of people that just want to tear others down.

I really miss being a bigger part of AZ!!!

Stan Shuffett
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"Clueless Lou" Nice, Stan.

This is the second time you have accused me of not having the requisite amount of desire to really and truly learn your system, but I wasn't the only one who bought your DVD and found it unfathomable. Some buyers even asked you for a refund (which you refused -- I just sold my copy at a slight loss). Even now, a year later, it is evident from all the discussion and controversy that people are still trying to figure it out, so the instruction on your DVD most clearly did not "stand alone" as you promised.

In a little over eight years here you have a grand total 450 posts and before your DVD came out most of them were about Landon's latest sucess or you touting lessons or CTE and all that is fine. But as far as you missing being a bigger part of AZ, please don't make it sound like you were ever a big contributor here.

Lou Figueroa
 
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CTE Significance to many

CTE/PRO ONE is a system that gives any aspiring learner objective visuals for shooting. Yes, objective real visuals that are repeatable and extremely accurate.

PRO ONE is the physical aspect of CTE that teaches a player how to move from objective visuals at ball address to the shot line. PRO ONE teaches you the right and left movements into the shot line that most all pros use and hardly any could explain. This has never been taught before....the actual correct movements that pros make into the shot.....well, you eventuallly may get there over the years, But why wait years, when you can start doing it now at whatever level you are currently playing.

Yes, some say my DVD is a waste of money. I can only say that you do not understand. You do not know what I know and am teaching. You chose to ignore the advancements I have put forth for our game in my DVD.

Stan
 
lfigueroa said:
"Clueless Lou" Nice, Stan.

This is the second time you have accused me of not having the requisite amount of desire to really and truly learn your system, but I wasn't the only one who bought your DVD and found it unfathomable. Some buyers even asked you for a refund (which you refused -- I just sold my copy at a slight loss). Even now, a year later, it is evident from all the discussion and controversy that people are still trying to figure it out, so the instruction on your DVD most clearly did not "stand alone" as you promised.

In a little over eight years here you have a grand total 450 posts and before your DVD came out most of them were about Landon's latest sucess or you touting lessons or CTE and all that is fine. But as far as you missing being a bigger part of AZ, please don't make it sound like you were ever a big contributor here.

Lou Figueroa
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You are a major reason that I have not posted very much. I was tired of your BS. There are plenty on here that know your agenda....Are you kidding? There is no way in H E L L that you really wanted to learn PRO ONE. YOu mission was to DIS,
 
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stan shuffett said:
You are a major reason that I have not posted very much. I was tired of your BS. There are plenty on here that know your agenda....Are you kidding?
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LOL, know my agenda?!

And what, pray tell, would that be?

Lou Figueroa
gonna have to
write this one down
 
stan shuffett said:
I really miss being a bigger part of AZ!!!

Stan Shuffett
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Stan, Glad to see you posting again.

For those CTE/Pro One questions that come up over and over again, I'd like to suggest that you add a FAQ section to your website so that you can answer some of the more common questions people may have. And if you're up to it, perhaps starting a FAQ thread here on AZB too.
 
justadub said:
Thanks for actually participating here, Stan. This is coming from someone who hasn't purchased your product or tried any variation of CTE. I'm also someone who isn't interested in tearing other people down. I expect that there are a great many of us who actively read the forums and are interested in this (or any other) topic, but don't jump into the playground with the rest. I am interested in learning things here on AZB, and it is a shame how others behave online. They do have to be the minority... as in real life, 90% of the noise is made by 10% of the people.

I hope you stop by occasionally, though I would understand if you didn't.
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Thanks for your post! I will post more often. I am about learning and education. It's been my career for going on 40 years. It is amazing that a select few feel necessary to try and stifle advancements that have come forth for our game.

Stan
 
justadub said:
Thanks for actually participating here, Stan. This is coming from someone who hasn't purchased your product or tried any variation of CTE. I'm also someone who isn't interested in tearing other people down. I expect that there are a great many of us who actively read the forums and are interested in this (or any other) topic, but don't jump into the playground with the rest. I am interested in learning things here on AZB, and it is a shame how others behave online. They do have to be the minority... as in real life, 90% of the noise is made by 10% of the people.

I hope you stop by occasionally, though I would understand if you didn't.
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Yes, it would be nice for the forum if Stan were to participate more often.

I doubt if that will ever happen. People like Lou and others like him will forever be waiting in the shadows to snipe at people like Stan or to make snide remarks with little emoticoms to cover their mean-spirited attacks. ;-)

At least Lou is man enough to use his own name, unlike others who hide behind their screen name to commit ad hominem attacks. I will give the devil his due.

Justadub, you are probably in the majority on this forum. Most of us are just interested in learning.

Some though use the forum as some kind of personal therapy to impose their will upon others and to cause pain and suffering guised as humor.
 
PoolSharkAllen said:
Stan, Glad to see you posting again.

For those CTE/Pro One questions that come up over and over again, I'd like to suggest that you add a FAQ section to your website so that you can answer some of the more common questions people may have. And if you're up to it, perhaps starting a FAQ thread here on AZB too.
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The FAQ for justcueit is in the works at this time.

Thanks,

Stan
 
stan shuffett said:
Thanks for your post! I will post more often. I am about learning and education. It's been my career for going on 40 years. It is amazing that a select few feel necessary to try and stifle advancements that have come forth for our game.

Stan
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The "advancements" you speak of are in communication, not pool.

Goes back to what I posted a hundred pages ago in this thread. The only thing new is the invention of the DVD and better, cheaper video equipment. If this weren't a true statement, yesterdays players would be inferior to todays. Are they?
 
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