A "Real" Offer to Grady

Fast Lenny said:
This is water under the bridge and I am unsure as to why it was brought up again after 5 months. All parties involved are pretty much past it but Jimmy aka Gomer Pyle would like to play Grady.

The back story of the match they played was real simple. Grady came to play Henderson, I picked him up from the airport and we stopped at the hotel, walked across the parking lot to the poolroom and he was in action within 20 minutes.

He agreed to play the owner giving 9/8 as neither knew how the other played, Grady offered and was not asked for 9/8 because he wanted to play. He made the stakes of the match also, Jimmy would have played him very cheaply if he wanted but Grady likes to bet.

Grady lost the first set and they agreed to play even and Grady lost a second set. I do believe Grady could beat 99% of poolroom owners in one pocket giving 9/8 but not this one.

Jimmy has since offered to play Grady in a neutral spot for 5-20k even up because Grady said if Jimmy played on a neutral table for $20,000 that Jimmy would have no chance in the world.

I think Grady is a good guy and loves pool, he has devoted his life to it. I wish him well in all that he does but I can say that Jimmy is not the bad guy here and was not trying to take advantage of him, its not his character to do that. He did not ask to play, did not ask for weight and did not set the stakes. He does regret taking a ball from Grady and said he should have played him even to start.

Grady, if your reading this and would be interested in playing in a neutral room then the offer is open to play that game. Its a respectful offer to play the game, if you would like weight I will see what he is willing to offer. I am sure everyone who knows Jimmy will tell you he is a good guy not trying to hustle people especially ones who he has no clue to how they play.

If anyone would like to hear the audio of the aftermath then turn up your speakers, here it is. You can get an understanding slightly of the situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVptmFyDriA
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I've never said a word about this event or the participants. But, Lenny the Lock, why would you post this 2 hours after Grady says no thanks. Now you're willing to negotiate giving a spot and posting a link to the conversation when Grady was upset. It looks like you are trying to embarrass and humiliate Grady. Trying to goad Grady into something he doesn't want. You and Jimmy won, enjoy the spoils, but its time to drop it.

Look, Grady is a seasoned gambler and if he allows embarrassment, anger, pride, and other emotions to guide him in a decision to make a game, so be it. I think in terms of: one day your the predator the next day you maybe the prey. But, trying to goad man into something he clearly stated he didn't want, is despicable. Reminds me of some siding and window con artist trying to take advantage of our senior citizens.

Steven
 
An offer in the form of a ratio

I am to Jimmy as SJD is to me. I'll shoot between them, a 45 sec. shot clock, no coaching and we'll play a seven ahead. I'll play at the DCC.
I gave several examples of how I treated visiting dignitaries in my life. Most posters thought I was wrong; so I just sucked it up and ate the $5,000 loss. This time it's going to be different if you play.Also, a requirement if we do play is this: we have to play at least 24 hours. We could put this on TAR or through Lennie.
 
Gmanpoke said:
I've never said a word about this event or the participants. But, Lenny the Lock, why would you post this 2 hours after Grady says no thanks. Now you're willing to negotiate giving a spot and posting a link to the conversation when Grady was upset. It looks like you are trying to embarrass and humiliate Grady. Trying to goad Grady into something he doesn't want. You and Jimmy won, enjoy the spoils, but its time to drop it.

Look, Grady is a seasoned gambler and if he allows embarrassment, anger, pride, and other emotions to guide him in a decision to make a game, so be it. I think in terms of: one day your the predator the next day you maybe the prey. But, trying to goad man into something he clearly stated he didn't want, is despicable. Reminds me of some siding and window con artist trying to take advantage of our senior citizens.

Steven
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To be honest I was uploading the video before Grady had posted so I did not get to see his post before mine. I wrote my post out and waited for video to put the link in at the end and hit reply.

I in no way would think about embarrassing Grady. He was not hustled or taken advantage of, he wanted a game and got one, he made the rules, stakes and handicap. He also shook hands before the match and said no hard feelings either way and to both be gentleman.

As far as you saying enjoy the spoils, I never got a dime from Grady playing Jimmy and had no part in it. Jimmy offered Grady his money back the very next day when Jimmy went to his hotel room to get him for a tournament but Grady was pissed at him so he left. I guess the feeling is mutual between the two and we can leave it as it is. I am only responding because this 5 month BS was brought back up when it was done and over.

We all can look at things in certain ways but its obvious Grady feels he was embarrassed and humiliated. He got beat by a decent player, nothing to be ashamed.

To be frank I could care less what you or anyone else on here or the internet thinks about me, I have gotten past that a long time ago. Have a great day. :)
 
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Grady said:
I am to Jimmy as SJD is to me. I'll shoot between them, a 45 sec. shot clock, no coaching and we'll play a seven ahead. I'll play at the DCC.
I gave several examples of how I treated visiting dignitaries in my life. Most posters thought I was wrong; so I just sucked it up and ate the $5,000 loss. This time it's going to be different if you play.Also, a requirement if we do play is this: we have to play at least 24 hours. We could put this on TAR or through Lennie.
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Grady, I do believe SJD will be at DCC but not sure Jimmy will but I could see if it can be arranged and if Dick is willing to play also. I think it would be an interesting game. What format do you propose? 7 ahead for how much? 24 hours would be the time limit if someone did not get 7 ahead I am assuming and then it would be pro rated after that?
 
Grady said:
I am to Jimmy as SJD is to me. I'll shoot between them, a 45 sec. shot clock, no coaching and we'll play a seven ahead. I'll play at the DCC.
I gave several examples of how I treated visiting dignitaries in my life. Most posters thought I was wrong; so I just sucked it up and ate the $5,000 loss. This time it's going to be different if you play.Also, a requirement if we do play is this: we have to play at least 24 hours. We could put this on TAR or through Lennie.
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Grady if you would like me to remove the audio vid I will happily, I am not trying to humiliate you or disrespect you in anyway but wanted to give people insight on the argument. Good day sir.
 
Fast Lenny said:
Grady, I do believe SJD will be at DCC but not sure Jimmy will but I could see if it can be arranged and if Dick is willing to play also. I think it would be an interesting game. What format do you propose? 7 ahead for how much? 24 hours would be the time limit if someone did not get 7 ahead I am assuming and then it would be pro rated after that?
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this has turned into being just pathetic!!!!
 
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I'm not mad at anybody but myself. Jimmy plays better than I do AND I'm starting out 5 dimes stuck.I am going to be pretty sure that he has the worst of it if I play with him.
 
Grady said:
I'm not mad at anybody but myself. Jimmy plays better than I do AND I'm starting out 5 dimes stuck.I am going to be pretty sure that he has the worst of it if I play with him.
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How did all this s**t get cranked up again, and how did I get involved...All I did, was try and be a mediator/peace-maker, between Grady and Jimmy...I like, and respect them both.

Us three are well over 21, and can still woof, and make our own games, withouut ANY outside help.

Lenny, your my bud too, and I know you're just speaking for Jimmy because he doesn't post...But, please be careful what you say for me...as it can be easily mis-construed.
 
SJDinPHX said:
How did all this s**t get cranked up again, and how did I get involved...All I did, was try and be a mediator/peace-maker, between Grady and Jimmy...I like, and respect them both.

Us three are well over 21, and can still woof, and make our own games, withouut ANY outside help.

Lenny, your my bud too, and I know you're just speaking for Jimmy because he doesn't post...But, please be careful what you say for me...as it can be easily mis-construed.
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HAHA! You bumped the thread dachshund brain! :grin:
 
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