A Visit with Mr. Moori

bbb said:
thanks for the reply
perhaps you can tell us your critique of the jewel ,ruby ,and jewel malachite and also compare them to the moori IV
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I definitely plan on doing that in the near future!
 
Bank it said:
I find this thread interesting & ask the same question as Lou. If Mr. Moori is still making tips himself then why don't they play remotely close to the ones from the 90's? I loved those tips but switched back to triangles years ago when the Moori's I used started delaminating tip after tip all of the sudden.
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When the the time is right, I'd like to try to get some insight into that. But I think it's a necessary step to regaining customers that were lost to other brands who basically all make the same thing that he invented, and not really any better, just marketed better imo.
 
I've got a McDermott D4 with an original 314 shaft that has an original Moori Medium tip on it. It still is a great tip even after about 15 to 20 years.
 
Victor,

GREAT STORY. Look forward to hearing more about Moori-san's website. Thanks for sharing this information.

One of the most important things Moori-san can do is to list the Distributors/Sellers of his products. I'm sure he has photos on his website and was hoping you might provide a link to his current website.

Since there are so many counterfeiters out there, he may be doing himself a favor by listing those who buy direct from him.

JoeyA

victorl said:
(Sorry, long story, could have been even longer!)

The first time I saw Mr. Moori, I had stopped by a local pool hall for some practice and noticed a railbird sitting at one of the tables watching the three-cushion action. Something struck me as kind of odd about him, but I couldn't put my finger on it. I later realized that he was watching the table intently, but his eyes weren't following the balls around. It was like he was listening, not looking.

Occasionally, people would come up to him and show him their cues, some really nice ones as well, but he'd just look at the tip, give it a squeeze and nod in approval. Then someone brought a cue over and asked him to replace the tip. He proceeded to pull out a selection of tips, a tube of glue and a Japanese leather knife and started working right there on the spot.

I change my own tips by hand, as many players here do, but it was clear this guy had the process down pat, just from the way he seemed to do everything in one smooth motion. I couldn't help but watch as he cut the excess leather off the tip and then trimmed it flush to the ferrule with lathe-like precision. When he was done, the owner of the cue came over and said, "Thank you, Moori-san" and I finally realized what he had been listening for.

On another occasion, I had a chance to actually speak with him about his products, and pool in general and it was clear the man is obsessed with cue tips. He asked if he could try out my cue, and after a couple of shots, he gave a nod and said, "I see, you're one of those players". Before I could ask him what he meant, he walked off, then reappeared with a tip packaged in that familiar plastic and foil package and told me, "Here, you'll like this".

We spent almost an hour talking about tips, cues, the state of the game and I was very impressed by his knowledge and understanding of the game and its players. I also asked him about some of the rumors floating around about Moori tips. He said he still makes them himself using the same process as always, and he takes great pride in that. No gimmicks or false marketing claims, just quality tips. In fact, for a few years recently, due to his own health issues, production nearly came to a halt since he does so much of the work himself.

He asked me to help translate his website into English, which I'm very happy to do, since it's packed with interesting information about his products, the history of Moori tips, and even a detailed look at the production process. I'll share it here when it's all done.

Oh, and I went home and put on the tip he gave me, and Mr. Moori was right, it's the nuts.
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JoeyA said:
Victor,

GREAT STORY. Look forward to hearing more about Moori-san's website. Thanks for sharing this information.

One of the most important things Moori-san can do is to list the Distributors/Sellers of his products. I'm sure he has photos on his website and was hoping you might provide a link to his current website.

Since there are so many counterfeiters out there, he may be doing himself a favor by listing those who buy direct from him.

JoeyA
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Which may be the cause for the drop in quality...counterfeits.

In this day/ age, price shoppers beware.
 
Black-Balled said:
Which may be the cause for the drop in quality...counterfeits.

In this day/ age, price shoppers beware.
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Even if you don't price shop, how do you know the Moori tip that you are purchasing is a genuine Moori tip?

JoeyA
 
JoeyA said:
Even if you don't price shop, how do you know the Moori tip that you are purchasing is a genuine Moori tip?

JoeyA
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You're right, the counterfeits are definitely a big issue. I'm sure there are many people unknowingly carrying and selling fakes because the market is flooded with them. Because his production capacity is limited, I figure there are probably significantly more fakes than real ones floating around out there.
One of the things I hope to accomplish with the English site is to educate disttributors and users on how to ensure that their Mooris are the real deal.

JoeyA said:
One of the most important things Moori-san can do is to list the Distributors/Sellers of his products. I'm sure he has photos on his website and was hoping you might provide a link to his current website.
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He has the Japanese distributors listed so I'm thinking we can do the same for the international ones as well.
The Moori tips website is at: http://www.moori-kooboo.com
 
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JoeyA said:
Victor,

GREAT STORY. Look forward to hearing more about Moori-san's website. Thanks for sharing this information.

One of the most important things Moori-san can do is to list the Distributors/Sellers of his products. I'm sure he has photos on his website and was hoping you might provide a link to his current website.

Since there are so many counterfeiters out there, he may be doing himself a favor by listing those who buy direct from him.

JoeyA
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victorl
if you can get moori-san to do this that would be GREAT....:thumbup:
 
Bob 14:1 said:
What are your impressions that make them highly recommended?

Which other tips would you most compare them to??

Thanks a million! :thumbup:
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I find the J to be close to the original Moori medium, but a bit softer.
 
jb1911 said:
I find the J to be close to the original Moori medium, but a bit softer.
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I agree, that's a pretty accurate description.
I'm using the Malachite now and it's slightly firmer than the Jewel on the durometer, but has a softer feel to it if that makes any sense.
I've only had limited experience with the Ruby... it's the hardest of the three Jewel tips, but still more like a medium, and very grippy.
 
Domo arigato gozaimasu!

JoeyA

victorl said:
You're right, the counterfeits are definitely a big issue. I'm sure there are many people unknowingly carrying and selling fakes because the market is flooded with them. Because his production capacity is limited, I figure there are probably significantly more fakes than real ones floating around out there.
One of the things I hope to accomplish with the English site is to educate disttributors and users on how to ensure that their Mooris are the real deal.



He has the Japanese distributors listed so I'm thinking we can do the same for the international ones as well.
The Moori tips website is at: http://www.moori-kooboo.com
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jb1911 said:
I find the J to be close to the original Moori medium, but a bit softer.
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victorl said:
I agree, that's a pretty accurate description.
I'm using the Malachite now and it's slightly firmer than the Jewel on the durometer, but has a softer feel to it if that makes any sense.
I've only had limited experience with the Ruby... it's the hardest of the three Jewel tips, but still more like a medium, and very grippy.
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Thank you fellas. :thumbup:
 
Another thing that I have noticed about the website (even after I had each page translated) was that there have been many revisions in printing/packaging/design of the Moori tips and while it nice to know of the different "versions" that has come out over the years, I think that the name and addresses of the distributors on the website would be great for the end user and for Moori-san's business.

FTR, I did not see a list of the Japanese distributors although with the vast amount of information on the website I could have easily missed it.

I enjoyed the translations but wish that some of the details of discussion about the tips, how they are made, how they perform could have been a little more clearer. I am thankful for the web translations nevertheless.

JoeyA


victorl said:
You're right, the counterfeits are definitely a big issue. I'm sure there are many people unknowingly carrying and selling fakes because the market is flooded with them. Because his production capacity is limited, I figure there are probably significantly more fakes than real ones floating around out there.
One of the things I hope to accomplish with the English site is to educate disttributors and users on how to ensure that their Mooris are the real deal.



He has the Japanese distributors listed so I'm thinking we can do the same for the international ones as well.
The Moori tips website is at: http://www.moori-kooboo.com
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Kim Bye said:
Having tried and installed quite a few Jewel and Ruby tips and waiting for my first delivery of Jewel Malachite tips, I can say that the new line of Moori tips are very high quality and is well worth the price.
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At one point, I believe you had mentioned that you installed the Zan Premium softs on all your cues.

Have you installed or played with a Jewel so as to make a comparison of the two?

After all this time, I'm finally ordering my new OBXL + with the layered maple ferrule.

Had I not seen this thread, I'd have gone immediately to the Zan, but have always had a preference for the Moori tips.

Thanks, Kim!!!
 
JoeyA said:
Another thing that I have noticed about the website (even after I had each page translated) was that there have been many revisions in printing/packaging/design of the Moori tips and while it nice to know of the different "versions" that has come out over the years, I think that the name and addresses of the distributors on the website would be great for the end user and for Moori-san's business.

FTR, I did not see a list of the Japanese distributors although with the vast amount of information on the website I could have easily missed it.

I enjoyed the translations but wish that some of the details of discussion about the tips, how they are made, how they perform could have been a little more clearer. I am thankful for the web translations nevertheless.

JoeyA
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JoeyA, thanks for your input. A pictorial history of design and packaging is another good idea... I'll run it by him. As for the list of distributors, you're right, I can't seem to find it either. I'll have to check on that.

I took a look at the Google-translated page just for fun, and man, it's horrible.
It's going to take some time to translate all the content because there's so much of it, but I'm working on it! ;)
 
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