A- Z Billiard use to be about all thing Cue Sport Related.

justnum

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Here is a proposal about pool tables from the NRA

National Restaurant Association

They propose to discontinue shared use entertainment

pool tables is listed

I haven't heard of any pool room reporting a covid outbreak more severe than rich people partying with out of town entertainment.

How is discontinuing a pool room saving anyone?

"Dont shoot the messenger" argue among yourselves, its just a message

any legal people from the pool community know about the following proposal?

proposals are different by state, but closing a pool hall for no reason....


https://restaurant.org/downloads/pdfs/business/covid19-return-to-work-guidelines-for-foodservice.pdf



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336Robin

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Too many people hijacking threads.

Too many people causing trouble.

Too many people being attacked.

Too many people getting tired of all the BS.

Thats why people are leaving.

I must admit that I get it all the time. And I am pretty much sick of it.

r/DCP

You said that right. Example: Glen Hancock Thread.

I know Glen Hancock and trust me there was a lot more to that attack than anyone here will ever know.

What is distressing is nothing except for what was offered from someones mouth was taken into account.

The site shouldn't allow such things which are unaccounted ad hominum attacks.

At what point do rules kick in? Attack speech is not protected speech. It is Domestic Terrorism.
 

trob

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I agree with you.. it’s not what it used to be. It’s like all Internet forums it’s turns into trolls who say nasty things to people they never would if they were face to face.

Any pro player who shows up here and try’s to give advice get attacked to the point they say the hell with it... why bother and they disappear.
 

garczar

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You said that right. Example: Glen Hancock Thread.

I know Glen Hancock and trust me there was a lot more to that attack than anyone here will ever know.

What is distressing is nothing except for what was offered from someones mouth was taken into account.

The site shouldn't allow such things which are unaccounted ad hominum attacks.

At what point do rules kick in? Attack speech is not protected speech. It is Domestic Terrorism.
'Domestic Terrorism'?????????????? Please, shitcan the drama anytime.
 

Z-Nole

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You said that right. Example: Glen Hancock Thread.

I know Glen Hancock and trust me there was a lot more to that attack than anyone here will ever know.

What is distressing is nothing except for what was offered from someones mouth was taken into account.

The site shouldn't allow such things which are unaccounted ad hominum attacks.

At what point do rules kick in? Attack speech is not protected speech. It is Domestic Terrorism.

Which Glen Hancock thread? Are you talking about the one where he stole some guys rails and $1500? Glen had his chance to defend himself and he’s never been shy about doing just that, so I took his unusual silence as a sign of guilt. Still do. While some of the replies were obviously over the top and mean spirited the post was needed and deserved. It’s just like when a member has an issue with a crook selling cues, it’s their option to warn the board. Right?
 

haystj

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A- Z Billiards, the Forum has become to much about, non Pool things. NPA is getting to much play.

Use to be there were Tournment announcements, show caseing of Cues & Cases, Review of Cue & Cases.

Then you had Wanted, For Sale, and Trades.

Use to be everything "A" to "Z" about Pool, and Cue Sports.:grin:

Plus a few Pro player would once in as while chime in.

Forum original idea was great, Forum has change direction for the worst.

Anyone else agree?

Or am I alone on my thinking.


So I am guessing that all or most of your 32,019 posts are cue sport related????


Pretty funny that you chose to post a non pool related thread in the one thread dedicated to only pool related topics,,,,,,,, but that point has been made by now.

Now, go back to NPR and continue your domestic terrorism activities with the other children.
 

garczar

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Which Glen Hancock thread? Are you talking about the one where he stole some guys rails and $1500? Glen had his chance to defend himself and he’s never been shy about doing just that, so I took his unusual silence as a sign of guilt. Still do. While some of the replies were obviously over the top and mean spirited the post was needed and deserved. It’s just like when a member has an issue with a crook selling cues, it’s their option to warn the board. Right?
Yep. Agree 100%.
 

garczar

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So I am guessing that all or most of your 32,019 posts are cue sport related????


Pretty funny that you chose to post a non pool related thread in the one thread dedicated to only pool related topics,,,,,,,, but that point has been made by now.

Now, go back to NPR and continue your domestic terrorism activities with the other children.
What's really funny is almost all his posts have little-to-nothing to do with the thread itself. He sees one word and it just sets off some bizarre stream of thought. Just recently someone asked about the diamonds on a pool table and ol Loco,seeing the word 'diamond', went off on some tangent about Diamond tables. Does it all the time.
 

336Robin

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Which Glen Hancock thread? Are you talking about the one where he stole some guys rails and $1500? Glen had his chance to defend himself and he’s never been shy about doing just that, so I took his unusual silence as a sign of guilt. Still do. While some of the replies were obviously over the top and mean spirited the post was needed and deserved. It’s just like when a member has an issue with a crook selling cues, it’s their option to warn the board. Right?

Not necessarily. You're assuming one is telling the truth and the worst of someone that's noted nationally as being one of the best Diamond Mechanics in the country. He's proven himself as a table mechanic, helped Diamond develop products and wouldn't have gotten where he is by screwing people over to start with. Accusations are loaded guns. Glen chose not to reply as an answer to his clients protest that was private before and kept it between them. It should have stayed between them to start with. The public display was a pressure tactic. It's easy to rush to judgement in the face of accusations and its not always right. Glen didn't owe anyone here an explanation and I'm sure that's cost him business but it was his choice. People here want the drama of the attacks and jump all over them. If there had been anything to it, the guy would have taken Glen to small claims. He didn't because its bullshit and everyone believed him. He even got free rails on account of it.
 
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worktheknight

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I do like the main forum as it's good read. It does amaze me how
a subject can take a left turn and several posts have nothing to
do with the OP posting.

I have though, seen some posts that some members ridicule right
from the start and basically shame the OP with quips that just
don't make the joke-o-meter.
In fact, why comment at all as some answers are just stupid one liners
with no helpful content at all.

I have sent private emails to the OP with my opinion, or give
them a source to get an answer. Then, I try my best to apologize
for some members reply in their post. I don't even know the member,
but, try to explain the stupid answer someone has left.

I know a person can look up posts from other members, I think some
should look up their own posts.
I'll stop here as if I continue, I may get lowered to a level that I can't
fully understand.
 
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Buster8001

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You said that right. Example: Glen Hancock Thread.

I know Glen Hancock and trust me there was a lot more to that attack than anyone here will ever know.

What is distressing is nothing except for what was offered from someones mouth was taken into account.

The site shouldn't allow such things which are unaccounted ad hominum attacks.

At what point do rules kick in? Attack speech is not protected speech. It is Domestic Terrorism.

What, pray tell, is "attack speech"?

And I'm quoting here: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Amendment One protects you from the government. It in no way protects you from another individual on private property (AZB). Again, out with your delusions. You're exactly the same type of individual that states the "A" in "AR15" stands for "assault". And where you stand on that issue is of no consequence; it's a correlation to incompetence. Which one can make quite easily and often with you.
 

336Robin

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What, pray tell, is "attack speech"?

And I'm quoting here: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Amendment One protects you from the government. It in no way protects you from another individual on private property (AZB). Again, out with your delusions. You're exactly the same type of individual that states the "A" in "AR15" stands for "assault". And where you stand on that issue is of no consequence; it's a correlation to incompetence. Which one can make quite easily and often with you.

Ok, I was fine when you were disagreeing with my opinion but then you went into a personal attack on me that you don't have to prove, you just do it.

This is the very thing I'm in disagreement with.

When the Constitution was written there wasn't an internet and words used after poorly thought up accusations weren't near as important then as they are now.

 

justnum

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Ok, I was fine when you were disagreeing with my opinion but then you went into a personal attack on me that you don't have to prove, you just do it.

This is the very thing I'm in disagreement with.

When the Constitution was written there wasn't an internet and words used after poorly thought up accusations weren't near as important then as they are now.


The question was "What is attack speech?"

when you follow a prepared script its good

but failure to defend your points leaves your hand showing.

say "institutional racism" or "social injustice discrimination perpetuated by the failed system employing bad actors"

thats the last time Robin, especially after that marianne joke in NPR
 

336Robin

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The question was "What is attack speech?"

when you follow a prepared script its good

but failure to defend your points leaves your hand showing.

say "institutional racism" or "social injustice discrimination perpetuated by the failed system employing bad actors"

thats the last time Robin, especially after that marianne joke in NPR

The attack speech occurs when an accusation that is baseless without proof of agreement or damages is leveled.

An oral assertion that something occured is he said, she said drama designed for a purpose.

In the baseless accusation the accuser should be required to post his proof used in the attack. The burden of proof should not be on the accused. In this country we say that is innocence is granted until proven guilty.

An accused persons lack of replying to an accusation is just as much of an answer to the accuser as it should be to the audience on an internet forum.It does not denote guilt.

That should have been taken to court and not the court of public opinion which the accuser was counting on winning while he damages the person he entered into a business arrangement with privately.

Given the amount of bandwidth that this subject took up. I would say the accuser we are talking about could now fear being taken to court by the same person he damaged publicly and the records are right here.

When the forum becomes an attack mechanism, then people will begin to exit which has been occuring.

 
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justnum

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The attack speech occurs when an accusation that is baseless without proof of agreement or damages is leveled.


so if a hacker inserts fake propaganda onto a political account is that attack speech?

You have social media, a hacker takes your account over and sends a message. The message is Robin is a blue jay not a red robin.

Who is committing the attack speech?

Its coming from your account. How would other people know it was hacked?
 

fastone371

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I agree-You have guys on here calling Covid a hoax. Belongs in NPR or in a mental asylum maybe.

Im not saying Covid is a hoax but you people who think its as bad as the media says it is may need to be seen by a mental specialist. The media and liberals have to flat out lie to try to make it look bad. Statistics prove that we have seen worse viruses recently and the healthy have never in history of the USA been quarantined before. And a certain segment of the population doesnt see something fishy going on here??
 

336Robin

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so if a hacker inserts fake propaganda onto a political account is that attack speech? I would think so.

You have social media, a hacker takes your account over and sends a message. The message is Robin is a blue jay not a red robin. Yes attack.

Who is committing the attack speech? The hacker.

Its coming from your account. How would other people know it was hacked?

The attack isn't coming from your account, its being perpetrated on your account and because of its one dimensional display is on a screen no one would know but they would think that "Robin is a Blue Jay" in your example and not as he wanted to be known as a "Red Robin." This is the damage and the attack is the hacker. How many people saw the attack message?

When someone decides how you are and levels a public accusation without proving it, is that not attack speech?

I say it is, because it violates the Constitution of granted innocence and inserts the attacker as a public judge and jury.
 

couldnthinkof01

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I just want to send a thank you to the cowboy
for this thread. It was a very coherent post and
has turned into exactly what he hoped it would.
Well played

Is it time to move this to npr?
 
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