About how often do Pros run a 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9+ pack?
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CreeDo said:
Yeah, I have that accustats video.. guess who Medina did that to? You'll never guess!! Ok I can't help myself.. Billy Incardona!! I love when Medina finally comes up dry on the break Billy turns his cue backwards and lines up the shot as if to say now watch me run 8 racks with the butt end of my cue stick.. Funny..
Break and run in a pro match I was told was an 18% clip. So approximately every 5 racks, a pro b and r's.
I saw Efren break and run 5 racks at Danny K's against Parica. That is about the most b and r I ever saw.
I saw Efren break and run 5 racks at Danny K's against Parica. That is about the most b and r I ever saw.
CreeDo said:
And Danny was kicking in long rail shots and all kinds of crazy stuff.
I saw him a couple days after that at Tournaments in Commerce City and he told me and Terry Mac that he was in such dead pump that if that CB hadn't popped off the table on the break, he would have definitely run out the set. ( at least I think that's how the run ended
)Gotta love that confidence. I think that's one thing a lot of great players have that is very hard to fake.
RC
gopi-1 said:Were Django Bustamante signed the table saying, "The winner!"?
I believe that is true. Busta won the first set, then Archer ran out the second set with Busta winning the third set. I think each set had different amounts wagered with Busta comming out on top. This happened in Toledo, Ohio. I think this is when Johnny Archer came in second to Mike Lebron at the glass city open.
I saw F. Bustamante B&R 7 racks in 10-ball against Efren Reyes. And the day after I saw Efren do the same in 9-ball against another player.
JustPlay said:
I'm pretty sure all the sets were for the same amount, if I remember right, after Archer broke and ran the second set Busta went up to him and asked him to double the bet, Archer declined and Busta won the third set.
when the pockets were bigger and the cloth was slow I watched siegal in Reno break and run 5 Earl shouted out"put a fork in me" this was about 20 years ago,
then along came Simonis and big pockets and everyone was stringing racks til the pockets got smaller.
its hard to say because of equipment changes over time., I had a friend show up late tto a tourmnent a month ago he got out of his car. didnt hit a ball and put 6 on a guy, beat him 11-2 (i think) the 6pack i'm positive of he said the pockets could almost take 2 and 1/2 balls they were so big.
i've never made it to 5, damn break gets me. I ran out from the 4 ball and 4 more on an easy table in Bakersfield in 90, the pockets were giant. Had lots of 3's on that table and I was only passing through town for the gas $$$, Put together 4 on a diamond the other night, damn break got me.
i wanted to add the first post in this thread given the equipment thats being used today, specifically Diamond tables yur numbers seem reasonable, but you cant use them going backwards for reasons stated above, buckets slow cloth etc.
then along came Simonis and big pockets and everyone was stringing racks til the pockets got smaller.
its hard to say because of equipment changes over time., I had a friend show up late tto a tourmnent a month ago he got out of his car. didnt hit a ball and put 6 on a guy, beat him 11-2 (i think) the 6pack i'm positive of he said the pockets could almost take 2 and 1/2 balls they were so big.
i've never made it to 5, damn break gets me. I ran out from the 4 ball and 4 more on an easy table in Bakersfield in 90, the pockets were giant. Had lots of 3's on that table and I was only passing through town for the gas $$$, Put together 4 on a diamond the other night, damn break got me.
i wanted to add the first post in this thread given the equipment thats being used today, specifically Diamond tables yur numbers seem reasonable, but you cant use them going backwards for reasons stated above, buckets slow cloth etc.
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Archer actually ran 15 racks.magnetardo said:I'm pretty sure all the sets were for the same amount, if I remember right, after Archer broke and ran the second set Busta went up to him and asked him to double the bet, Archer declined and Busta won the third set.
He ran 13 and out in one set.
Then ran two more in the next set but Busta won that set.
This according to Ted Harris.
Jerry Forsyth said:
that's what I think too...that packs are runs of concecutive racks. Of course, that is becoming more rare since most pro tournaments have abandoned the ridiculous "winner breaks" rule. Such an advantage does not exist in any other major sport.
Having said that, I am in favor of winner breaks in the few "open tournaments" like the U.S Open and the DCC but only because there are hundreds of amateurs who (like me) enter such tournaments for the thrill of it. In those tournaments, the mopes like me have to get eliminated as quickly as possible to keep the events on schedule.
Regards,
Jim