Abs glue issues

[Ccarroll]

I am practicing making my own ferrules drilling tapping etc and applying them to dowels.
After the ferrule application I'm having trouble getting the tip to stay on the ABS. I'm using loctite gel. Does anyone have a recommendation for a glue that will hold the tip on? Or should I bite the bullet and order a more expensive ferrule material to practice with ....

Best Regards

 

[Kim Bye]

Try Loctite 401.

 

[Cornerman]

I am practicing making my own ferrules drilling tapping etc and applying them to dowels.
After the ferrule application I'm having trouble getting the tip to stay on the ABS. I'm using loctite gel. Does anyone have a recommendation for a glue that will hold the tip on? Or should I bite the bullet and order a more expensive ferrule material to practice with ....

Best Regards

ABS is a completely different animal than the thermosets typically found in "more expensive ferrules." Even if you master ABS, you'll only indirectly learn what you need to if you then switch to the phenolics and other thermosets (micarta, linen, canvas, etc). I advise to go ahead and work with standard cue ferrules.

That being said:

Loctite 401 does very well with ABS. Primers and roughening in general doesn't significantly increase the bond strength with ABS. So don't bother putting too much effort with those additional processes. It's going to be all about flatness, fit, clamping, and curing. In manufacturing with 401, it's important to not be in an overly dry environment, and if you sand or machine, let the parts acclimate. It's a surface moisture/moisture curing concept.


There are a couple of different families of adhesives that work extremely well with ABS, but as always, I can't imagine they'd be readily user friendly in cue making. Would you really want to optimize an ABS ferrule bond? I wouldn't think so.

Freddie

 

[akaminski]

I use epoxy for all ferrules.... Se have called it overkill but one time when I first started doing repairs I tried CA gel one own cue to practice and it got stuck half way on lol


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[whammo57]

Some asian cues come with ABS or PVC ferrules.......... tips don't stick to them...........

I always change them out to something better and then put on a tip,


Kim

 

[StrokeAnalyzer]

How can you tell if a ferrule is abs or pvc? The lack of a weave when examined under high power magnification?

 

[whammo57]

How can you tell if a ferrule is abs or pvc? The lack of a weave when examined under high power magnification?

To be honest..... it is usually after the tip pops off.....

You can tell when you are cutting the ferrule off on the lathe...... it is very soft and makes a soft string when cutting...........

Kim

 

[macguy]

I am practicing making my own ferrules drilling tapping etc and applying them to dowels.
After the ferrule application I'm having trouble getting the tip to stay on the ABS. I'm using loctite gel. Does anyone have a recommendation for a glue that will hold the tip on? Or should I bite the bullet and order a more expensive ferrule material to practice with ....

Best Regards

I would not call it biting the bullet. It will only come to a few dollars a ferrule making your own. Get the good stuff if you want.

 

[Ccarroll]

Thanks to all

 

[Cornerman]

How can you tell if a ferrule is abs or pvc? The lack of a weave when examined under high power magnification?

They sound different. But in all seriousness... oh wait.... that was being serious!

Edit: I thought you were asking about ABS vs PVC, but now I see you're asking about thermosets vs thermoplastics. The former is a bit tough, but if you're around plastics enough, it becomes easier; the latter is an absolute hanger for exactly what you said. Any thermoset in this application would have a fiber reinforcements be it paper, canvas, linen, etc. and you shouldn't need magnification.


Freddie <~~~ one word: plastics