accidently called safe!

12310bch

12310bch

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Playing partners 8-ball today and had several stripes left. My opponent had one solid sitting right in front of a side pocket. I was lining up a fairly difficult
shot and my partner asked,"Why don't you just play safe?" I replied that
if I missed the shot I'll be leaving the cue ball safe so I am playing safe.
This was no secret and my opponents overheard the conversation. I called the pocket and made the shot. I started to line up on my next ball and my opponent said that I couldn't shoot again because I had called a safe.
Of course I never meant I was calling a safe but I had said specifically
that I was playing safe to my partner. I couldn't deny that I had said it so I knew I was trapped. I didn't argue, I gave up my turn.
Just another lesson in pool for me! :withstupid:
 
I've never called "safe" in my life..

it makes life easier on several levels..

even when playing safe.. I call a ball (8-ball)

saves me a lot of arguments and insults from the bangers..
 
softshot said:
I've never called "safe" in my life..

it makes life easier on several levels..

even when playing safe.. I call a ball (8-ball)

saves me a lot of arguments and insults from the bangers..
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Yes, you CAN shoot safe without "calling" safe, but there are times when you may want to make one of your balls while still shooting safe (BCA rules) and giving up the table. It wouldn't make sense to call this ball in the pocket you are about to put it in. And if you call it in another pocket other than the one you intend to shoot it in, then that is an obvious safe to your opponent to which you would be insulted for anyway.

Maniac
 
softshot said:
I've never called "safe" in my life..

it makes life easier on several levels..

even when playing safe.. I call a ball (8-ball)

saves me a lot of arguments and insults from the bangers..
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Agreed. Many people don't understand the rule.

If I'm going to make a ball and don't want another turn if I do, then I just call the ball in some other pocket (that there's no way it will go in). Then just watch my opponent think WTF is going on when I make the ball in the obvious pocket.

If the person knows the safety rule, they usually just smile. If not, I don't have to explain that I loose my turn because I made the ball in the wrong pocket and they don't get BIH because I pocketed a ball.
 
12310bch said:
I didn't argue, I gave up my turn.
Just another lesson in pool for me! :withstupid:
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You learned the wrong lesson. You did not call safe, therefore, you did not have to give up your turn. You let them talk you into it.
 
Right, you have to indicate the intention to play safe to your opponent or a referee in order for it be held as a safety.

What if you said "maybe I should just push out" to yourself while playing 9 ball, decided against it and potted a ball? Technically that guy could pull the same thing.
 
The real questions are: Did the cueball provide a shot to their ball by the side pocket? And who won the game?
 
It was a good safety

Well, I had succeeded in playing safe. They missed their ball, we got ball in hand and won the game.:grin:
 
Tell the guy to quit easdropping.

12310bch said:
Well, I had succeeded in playing safe. They missed their ball, we got ball in hand and won the game.:grin:
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What you actually did was play what is called a "2 way shot".
Well if you won anyway. No biggie.
 
You should have called a ruling on that, from what you said you "executed the shot and pocketed the ball where you called it"..... All you did was explain your shot to your team mate and told him that if you missed it, the cue ball would be safe. You did NOT call SAFTEY specifically. The opposing team was trying to get at the table when they where not supposed to, and trying to "cheat" in a way. But that's my opinion, I would have made my intensions very clear to them after that. Your team got the point in the end, so it's kind of a mute point now, but that's a situation we should all be aware of and take a lesson from it.
 
12310bch said:
Well, I had succeeded in playing safe. They missed their ball, we got ball in hand and won the game.:grin:
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Are you saying your opponent "made" you give up the table for a shot at his ball that he could NOT hit :confused: and thus gave you ball-in-hand whereas you ran out??? Not too smart of a move there.

Maniac
 
WoodyJ said:
Agreed. Many people don't understand the rule.

If I'm going to make a ball and don't want another turn if I do, then I just call the ball in some other pocket (that there's no way it will go in). Then just watch my opponent think WTF is going on when I make the ball in the obvious pocket.

If the person knows the safety rule, they usually just smile. If not, I don't have to explain that I loose my turn because I made the ball in the wrong pocket and they don't get BIH because I pocketed a ball.
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Could you explain the safety rule you're talking about? You lost me there.

If you call safe and you pocket one of your balls legally, your opponent does NOT get ball in hand since you haven't fouled. So what's the advantage of calling a bogus pocket and pocketing your ball in another, over calling safe and pocketing the ball?
 
Safe or Out

softshot said:
I've never called "safe" in my life..

it makes life easier on several levels..

even when playing safe.. I call a ball (8-ball)

saves me a lot of arguments and insults from the bangers..
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I'm kind of in the opposite school. I call safe on every shot I intend to play safe. Why you ask?

1) Don't want to be disturbed when the guy asks what pocket I'm calling. If I tell him I'm playing safe he already knows what I'm doing.

2) Don't want to get in an argument with the guy if the ball or any ball accidently goes in. I'm coverd by calling safe.

3) I want the guy to know how well I'm about to hook him and that is was purely intentional, and he can expect more of the same later in the game.
 
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