Advice for beginner cues?

My experience with the low-end McDermott cues has been good. A local billiard supply store lets you shoot with the cues on sale and the $100 (about) McDermotts hit the ball better than the $400 cues. Check out https://www.mcdermottcue.com/pool_cues_100-149.php

As for a break cue, here is some contrarian advice: don't get one. Many of them have phenolic tips -- the same material the balls are made of. Those tips damage the cue ball. This is easy to test and see, if you have a nice, new polished ball that you don't mind ruining. Beyond that, until your power gets up to the point that you are destroying tips, there's not much point. You are better off learning to control the cue ball on the break shot while learning how to play power shots with your normal cue.
In no way do I mean this to come off sarcastically. How does a phelonic break tip damage the cue ball if it is made of the same material? The cue ball and playing balls are made of the same material as well, and hit each other constantly, but that doesn't damage them.
 
In no way do I mean this to come off sarcastically. How does a phelonic break tip damage the cue ball if it is made of the same material? The cue ball and playing balls are made of the same material as well, and hit each other constantly, but that doesn't damage them.
Chalk has grit in it. The grit is driven equally into the surfaces of two equally hard materials like phenolic-phenolic. For leather against phenolic, the grit goes mostly into the tip during tip-ball contact. But you don't have to take my word for it. Get a brand new ball and shoot a dozen break shots with a phenolic tip and then look at the surface.
 
My brand new cue ball after a few months of breaks with the phenolic tip on a J&J break cue.
At this point I'm not sure if my break would be affected that much with a different tip .... like a Water Buffalo, which seems plenty hard enough.
How I'd love to try a carbon fiber shaft on my break cue. This might just be the excuse I need.

Boy, that escalated quickly. I'm gonna see what's on e-Bay and craigslist.
 

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My brand new cue ball after a few months of breaks with the phenolic tip on a J&J break cue.
At this point I'm not sure if my break would be affected that much with a different tip .... like a Water Buffalo, which seems plenty hard enough.
How I'd love to try a carbon fiber shaft on my break cue. This might just be the excuse I need.

Boy, that escalated quickly. I'm gonna see what's on e-Bay and craigslist.
That red cloth is the real crime here 😂
 
That red cloth is the real crime here 😂

The wife wanted pink, so I think I got lucky!
Part of the negotiation process for placing the table in the living room.

On another note, this it the same ball just cleaned with Aramith Ball Restorer. It cleaned up nicely and is still as smooth as it was when new.
Sooo .... I've proved nothing :(
 

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The wife wanted pink, so I think I got lucky!
Part of the negotiation process for placing the table in the living room.

On another note, this it the same ball just cleaned with Aramith Ball Restorer. It cleaned up nicely and is still as smooth as it was when new.
Sooo .... I've proved nothing :(
Ha, at least she agreed to having a table!
All of my practice seems to continually prove what I think I know is wrong😃
 
Chalk has grit in it. The grit is driven equally into the surfaces of two equally hard materials like phenolic-phenolic. For leather against phenolic, the grit goes mostly into the tip during tip-ball contact. But you don't have to take my word for it. Get a brand new ball and shoot a dozen break shots with a phenolic tip and then look at the surface.
I contacted Aramith. I asked if an Phelonic tip cause damage.

Here's their response:

"Hello,

The Aramith balls, while way more resistant than other balls will eventually get damaged over time, depending on playing conditions (frequency and intensity of play), material used (tip, cloth, chalk, table), external conditions (temperature, humidity) and maintenance.

The cue ball is the most used and is therefore more subject to heavy stress and strain. The use of harder tips may increase the risk of damages and phenolic tips are forbidden in some events for that reason.
It is important to note that the presence of scuff marks even with chalk is normal and does not affect the characteristics of the cue ball.

We recommend to maintain the Aramith balls with the Aramith ball cleaner. For deeper marks we recommend the Aramith ball restorer (in conjunction with the Aramith ball cleaner).

Hoping this answers your request,

Best regards.

ARAMITH - BELGIUM

Le 22/10/2023 à 16:40 "
 
I checked out the Schmelke site. Lots of options there. J&J has some reasonable break cues, but so does Schmelke.
I'm narrowing it down!
Instead of buying a J J break cue buy 2 cues, use one to break, the other to play, if one has a tip fall off, you can still finish playing.
 
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