advice on tips from cuemakers

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sluggerknuckles

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Hello everyone and thank you in advance for your opinions and expertise. I am very grateful that you take the time to continue interest in pool and I appreciate it.

Can someone comment on the types of tips you use in relation to the ferrules and shaft taper and stiffness....

The carmeli I just picked up has a pretty hard tip and was thinking about switching it to a moori medium but would like some opinions on it for I am afraid that I might take away from the way the cue hits.

When it comes to the hit of the cue, do cuemakers match the tip to the stiffness of the shaft or is it personal preference of what the cuemaker likes to hit with?

Do cuemakers use different types of tips depending on how they think the cue will hit?

The Carmeli I just got in was an outstanding cue because it was made from a Davis blank with really high tone and density. Ariel tried to match the shafts well and said it was a very solid hitter.....which it is although I might lack the experience to know what a great hitting cue feels like since I just stepped up into the custom cue world. It was more of an experiment using one of the greats in cue making and had martin pick out the one that he thought was the best in terms of potential for making a superior cue. He recommended Ariel to finish the cue.
 
It all depends on what the customer is looking for. You can use a LBM ferulle and Medium tip and achieve a firmer hit with a longer tapered shaft. You can use a shorter taper shaft and put a Titan ferulle and Kamui SS and achieve a softer hit. There is several ways to change with feel of the shaft with the ferulle and tip combination. I personally use a Kamui SS on my Predator shaft that I play with. What I do is talk with my customer and feel them out on what there looking for with the hit of the cue. And then I make suggestions to them on how I build the cue to fit there desired preference.
 
I use an UltraSkin soft with an original Ivorine ferrule on one shaft and UltraSkin Medium on the other shaft with an IvorX ferrule.

I like the ability to change up depending on what game, cloth conditions and rail conditions.
 
The ultraskin tips are very also from what I can tell. Tom I wish you had a SS in them. I still like the softs
 
patrickcues said:
The ultraskin tips are very also from what I can tell. Tom I wish you had a SS in them. I still like the softs
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Patrick, a lot of people do. Thats the whole thing, to use what you feel comfortable playing with. One shoe does not fit all feet, never has never will.
 
sluggerknuckles said:
Hello everyone and thank you in advance for your opinions and expertise. I am very grateful that you take the time to continue interest in pool and I appreciate it.

Can someone comment on the types of tips you use in relation to the ferrules and shaft taper and stiffness....

The carmeli I just picked up has a pretty hard tip and was thinking about switching it to a moori medium but would like some opinions on it for I am afraid that I might take away from the way the cue hits.

When it comes to the hit of the cue, do cuemakers match the tip to the stiffness of the shaft or is it personal preference of what the cuemaker likes to hit with?

Do cuemakers use different types of tips depending on how they think the cue will hit?

The Carmeli I just got in was an outstanding cue because it was made from a Davis blank with really high tone and density. Ariel tried to match the shafts well and said it was a very solid hitter.....which it is although I might lack the experience to know what a great hitting cue feels like since I just stepped up into the custom cue world. It was more of an experiment using one of the greats in cue making and had martin pick out the one that he thought was the best in terms of potential for making a superior cue. He recommended Ariel to finish the cue.
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I use tips on my customs cues based upon the following:

1. How well do they hold their shape.

2. How they machine ( Do they delaminate )

3. Do they play well. Since I also love to play, I try a number of different tips. I do not try only a single hardness, I try Soft, Medium, and Hard tips, I also try layered and non-layered tips. However, the quality of non-layered tips these days is not what it once was, so while I will install them at a customers request I do not recommend them any longer.

Currently the Tips I use on my playing cue and on the custom cues I build are tips that I import from South Korea. These tips are a six layered tip that meets all the requirements above, and I am the only person in the USA that carries these tips currently.

Hope this helps
 
It is important to note that how the cue feels to you through feedback (hit) is not the only indication of its playability. Some great players like softer hitting cues while some prefer firmer hitting cues. The player still plays great using their instrument of choice. An argument is made occasionally that a certain tip gives a better 'feel' for what the cue ball is doing. I still don't understand the validity of this statement. The cue ball is long gone by the time the 'shock wave' of impact reaches from the cueball, through the shaft and forearm of the cue to your hand. I'll tell you what the cue ball is doing; exactly what you told it to do. Note: what you intend to tell it and what you actually tell it are not always the same thing.
 
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