After 3 months with my Naked BeCue - Thoughts and Details

Agent 99

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Let me start by saying that this is about more than reviewing a cue. Yes the BeCue is, by definition, a pool cue. But it is very different than any pool cue made before, at least any cue that I have ever seen.

This post will be about why I bought a BeCue. what I use a BeCue for, and why the BeCue is different than any cue I have ever played.

Measurements, weights and balance points:

The 5.1 shaft weighs 4.2 oz - It measures 29 1/4 inches in length - This is a conical shaft -- here is how it measures...

Tip = 12 mm
1 inch back = 12.23 mm
2 inches = 12.58 mm
3 inches = 12.76 mm
4 inches = 13.03 mm
5 inches = 13.28 mm
6 inches = 13.50 mm
7 inches = 13.70 mm
8 inches = 13.84 mm
9 inches = 14.06 mm
10 inches = 14.43 mm
11 inches = 14.72 mm
12 inches = 15.02 mm
18 inches = 17.58 mm
24 inches = 20.38 mm

The Naked butt is something that the members here have all seen. For those reading this who have not seen the cue, you can go to BeCue's web site, or their Face Book page to view numerous pictures. To my eyes this butt more resembles a part from the propulsion room of an inter-galactic flying machine than something you would screw a shaft on, and I like it !! .. lol.

The butt length measures in at 29 3/8 inches from the joint to the end of the bumper.

Here are the taper measurements:

Joint = 21.28 mm
2" back = 21.57 mm
4" back = 22.19 mm
6" back = 22.90 mm
8" back = 23.50 mm
10" back = 24.45 mm
12" back = 25.27 mm
14" back = 25.95 mm
16" back = 26.70 mm
18" back = 27.42 mm
20" back = 28.09 mm
22" back = 28.89 mm
24" back = 29.70 mm
26" back = 30.45 mm
28" back = 30.55 mm

Weights and balance points:

Butt no bolt = 14.7 oz - Balance at 19 1/8 inches - Total playing weight 18.9 oz
Butt w/1/2 oz bolt = 15.2 oz - Balance at 19 inches - Total playing weight 19.4 oz
Butt w/ 1 oz bolt = 15.7 oz - Balance at 18 3/4 inches - Total playing weight 19.9 oz
Butt w/ 1.5 oz bolt = 16.2 oz - Balance at 18 1/2 inches - Total playing weight 20.4 oz
Butt W/ 2 oz bolt = 16.7 oz - Balance at 18 1/4 inches - Total playing weight 20.9 oz

The first thing to do when you get your new BeCue is to set the weight and balance where you prefer it. When you do this you will discover that what I refer to as a "bolt" in the above specs really is not a bolt at all. It's a smooth torpedo shaped weight that is press fitted into the butt.

Instantly you realize that this is not the standard affair when it come to pool cues.

Actually, the first time you unscrew the bumper you know this is a different animal.

The rubber part of the bumper is attached to a stainless steel threaded bolt that is received by stainless threading to secure the bumper in place. I felt immediately that this cue was of superior engineering with excellent attention to detail.

The "torpedo weights" are easily changed without the need of any tools. The graphite tubular housing that holds the different weights has a magnet on one end, and it is used to extract the weights by simply contacting it to the weight and pulling it out. BeCue calls this the LBS system - short for "Leonardo Balancing System." This is patented technology and proprietary to BeCue.

So, was this a big deal to me? Well, not really as a functional aspect, because once I have the cue weighted to my preference I am done with this procedure, perhaps for ever. For someone who wants to experiment playing with different heft and balance it would be a big functional improvement over the standard bolt systems. However the quality and the durability of this system will impress anyone. It's a true indication of the advance engineering and construction to be found in the rest of the cue.

The butt taper is quite traditional, imagine that! The consistent gradual taper is Schon like, or for that matter like most cues. The butt feels natural and very comfortable, from a dimensional viewpoint this will be what most players are use to shooting with.

The Joint: The joint has a stainless collar, stainless pin and a threaded stainless insert in the shaft. This is a very strong joint. It's tight fitting, in 3 months I have not experienced any loosening of the joint while playing.

Much like the bumper and the weight system this joint was designed and built for the long run.

You will notice how solid this cue feels when you play it, every time you play it, every shot you take with it. There is never a feeling of vibration or hollowness. This shaft hits nearly identical to a solid maple shaft, I really can not say that it has any special feel, other than the amazing consistency of the hit - shot after shot, and the fact that you will never feel like you just hit one off the end of the bat ... there is never a feeling of anything but a good solid hit. The tip goes through the cue ball with out any drama and delivers the most astonishing consistency I have experienced.

Here is what this cue is all about to me, and why I bought it.

The most important aspect of this cue is it's consistency. If you shoot the same shot you will get the same result every time. It is a confidence building cue. After I got tuned in to it I was making position shots that I would have not attempted before, when just a little too far or short would spell disaster.

I do not know why this is, but I can promise you it's the most accurate and repeatable cue I have ever played.

In theory this cue should out live you. Not that big of an accomplishment in my particular case, but how great would it be to buy a cue in you twenty's or thirty's that you can play with for the remainder of your pool playing days? Never again would you have to worry about things like delamination, knots in the wood, warping or poor radial consistency. Nothing for you to do except practice, practice, practice and occasionally add a new tip.

I will also add that my dealing with BeCue has been a pleasure. Very nice people who not only make cues that shoot straight, but know how to shoot straight with their customer base as well.

Good Rolls.
 
I am constantly buying and trying new cues and I'm not opposed to new fangle ideas and materials. Many great reviews on this cue thus far. Hmmmm.


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"The tip goes through the cue without any drama".
You do realize this has nothing to do with the cue, right?

"If you shoot the same shot, you will get the same result"
You do realize this is a fact, with any cue you ever shoot with, right?
 
"The tip goes through the cue without any drama".
You do realize this has nothing to do with the cue, right?

"If you shoot the same shot, you will get the same result"
You do realize this is a fact, with any cue you ever shoot with, right?

Actually, I think you may be incorrect on both points.

1) The tip going nicely through the cue ball is a reality. It is the tip that is at the end of a BeCue .. so I am not sure what you are saying here.

2) If you shoot the same shot with a wooden shaft you will not always get the same results. Understand that I am talking about where you are landing the cue ball. After you take out the inconsistency's that are inherent to wood, changing density, radial inconsistence, warping ect .. You will by default have a more consistent result given the same stroke with a BeCue.

There is no question about this. I can prove it easily. Now if you are a lower level player, you may not be able to shoot the same shot consistently, and it would not matter. In this case you are correct, only practice can improve play until it reaches a level where the shooters repeatable stroke can accurately measure a cue's consistency by cue ball placement.
 
Another advantage of the BeCue--no shaft maintenance of the type that wood shafts require.
 
Actually, I think you may be incorrect on both points.

1) The tip going nicely through the cue ball is a reality. It is the tip that is at the end of a BeCue .. so I am not sure what you are saying here.

2) If you shoot the same shot with a wooden shaft you will not always get the same results. Understand that I am talking about where you are landing the cue ball. After you take out the inconsistency's that are inherent to wood, changing density, radial inconsistence, warping ect .. You will by default have a more consistent result given the same stroke with a BeCue.

There is no question about this. I can prove it easily. Now if you are a lower level player, you may not be able to shoot the same shot consistently, and it would not matter. In this case you are correct, only practice can improve play until it reaches a level where the shooters repeatable stroke can accurately measure a cue's consistency by cue ball placement.

So your giving the credit to a Ultraskin Medium? Put it on the end of a broomstick, and it will still go nicely through the cue, without any drama, if you have any kind of stroke.
As for the consistency, you don't play good enough that it matters.
If Efren played pin point accuracy, consistently, for yrs, with a $15 China cue, how much more consistent is your cue vs the one he had? Certainly not enough to matter, and it would take a Robot, or someone like Efren, to even see the difference of .00001 mm you speak of.
 
"The tip goes through the cue without any drama".
You do realize this has nothing to do with the cue, right?

"If you shoot the same shot, you will get the same result"
You do realize this is a fact, with any cue you ever shoot with, right?

I can understand your skepticism mad hatter. I assure you that my game is precise enough to notice a difference and it's taken a jump with this cue, same reasons as Agent 99 posted. It's a great performance cue once a player fully adapts to it.

When the LD shaft came out, it met with a wall of skepticism. I realize players will be skeptical. It's healthy to be skeptical to avoid the marketing hype etc. - I'll try to post some playing videos in the near future.

These type of synthetic cues will keep improving and I'm convinced they are the future of pool.
 
I can understand your skepticism mad hatter. I assure you that my game is precise enough to notice a difference and it's taken a jump with this cue, same reasons as Agent 99 posted. It's a great performance cue once a player fully adapts to it.

When the LD shaft came out, it met with a wall of skepticism. I realize players will be skeptical. It's healthy to be skeptical to avoid the marketing hype etc. - I'll try to post some playing videos in the near future.

These type of synthetic cues will keep improving and I'm convinced they are the future of pool.

TATE has a fargorate of 622 according to his initial review of his 5.1 BeCue shaft, so his remarks are more than qualified.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5824310&postcount=99

TATE, so you have a link to your full review thread? I thought I remember reading it but can't seem to find it.
 
Most players nowadays like 1MM or less of taper ftom the tip to the 1 foot mark, fwiw.
Thanks for the detailed review.
 
Most players nowadays like 1MM or less of taper ftom the tip to the 1 foot mark, fwiw.
Thanks for the detailed review.


I am in agreement with Joey, the increase is very substantial and to this day I have never been asked to make a shaft that fat at the 12" mark. I have only been making them for 6 years, maybe soon I will be flooded with the requests.
 
Most players nowadays like 1MM or less of taper ftom the tip to the 1 foot mark, fwiw.
Thanks for the detailed review.

With feedback like this, the cue makers have made the 5.2 shaft which has a pro taper and from what I read on another thread, will be available in August.

I am very interested to hear from them what hurdles they had to overcome to create a pro taper shaft and still keep the same LD, weight, and feel qualities that the 5.1 has.

The strong taper was surely different from my other wood shafts, as you stated above but easily adaptable because the tip size is not 12.9mm or something starting out large.
 
That's a freakin' sno-cone shaped shaft! One thing i can't find anywhere: PRICE. How much is this wonder-weapon? Is it shipped direct from Italy? Will there be U.S. dealers?
 
TATE has a fargorate of 622 according to his initial review of his 5.1 BeCue shaft, so his remarks are more than qualified.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5824310&postcount=99

TATE, so you have a link to your full review thread? I thought I remember reading it but can't seem to find it.

So that fargo rate should be up around 750 - 800 by this time next yr I would think. Im just saying, its the indian, not the arrow. All the claims he is making, sound like marketing hype. I would associate it to the placebo affect. CJ was also qualified, do you use TOI? It will make you 3 balls better by next week. Certainly more so than a cue. But I rest my case. The cue may give you confidence, but it does not improve ROTE (fact), and I took his post as saying it does.
 
So much debating over a machined stick. How can a stick instrument be discussed to no end? So its a carbon fiber stick. That's it - Ive seen carbon fiber, Ive seend LD shafts. They have good customer service and its Italian. Enjoy!
 
I ordered it directly from BeCue ... Dealt with a man named Alessandro ... all correspondence was done by email ... they may still have special pricing as I do not believe they have a distributor in the USA.



You can send him an e-mail at the link below...



http://www.becueofficial.com/en/contact.php



Hope all is well for you and yours, John.



If you don't mind me asking. What did your cue cost.
Thanks.


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