Aim Question....NOT AIM SYSTEMS. :)

[RRfireblade]

I am not sure what you mean. All the systems I know direct me to come into the shot a certain way which forces the stance and alignment to be petty much the same for each shot. Naturally this has variance for shots that are hard to reach or where one must bridge over a ball. But that seems to be fairly easy to deal with.

Just that reading about them on the forum I haven't really noticed specifics unique to a certain system outlined outside of what most might consider typical shot preparation or routine. Most discussion seems to surround finding portions of the OB and/or some formula for determining the contact point or angle to the pocket etc. Not saying it is not included, just that I haven't seen very much if anything openly discussed myself. Which is why I'm asking. Maybe I use and instruct a system I wasn't even aware of.

 

[JB Cases]

When you are bringing the two points into alignment from standing to bending down over the shot, the place where they meet dictate where your body goes. It feels like your being pulled down into place.

That's how I feel about it. This is the underlying reason why I and other system users say that we do the same steps from shot to shot and that it's not subconscious adjustment allowing us to find the shot line.

 

[JB Cases]

Just that reading about them on the forum I haven't really noticed specifics unique to a certain system outlined outside of what most might consider typical shot preparation or routine. Most discussion seems to surround finding portions of the OB and/or some formula for determining the contact point or angle to the pocket etc. Not saying it is not included, just that I haven't seen very much if anything openly discussed myself. Which is why I'm asking. Maybe I use and instruct a system I wasn't even aware of.

I would say because the actual motions a system user does look for all the world similar to the motions that any decent player would do going down on the ball. The whole thing is blown way out of proportion because most systems are simply just a 1-2-3 operation and you're down on the ball.

 

[JoeyA]

When you are bringing the two points into alignment from standing to bending down over the shot, the place where they meet dictate where your body goes. It feels like your being pulled down into place.

That's an excellent way of putting it.

 

[3RAILKICK]

Systematic repeatable aiming procedures

IMHO, successful ball pocketers have a systematic repeatable approach to aiming. This may not be a system.

The intuitive player has enough error-feedback(misses) to evolve to a correct firing solution method of delivering the cb to the right place on the ob. The proper body alignment, sighting visualizations, speed and stroke types and any other needed elements are collected, categorized, recalled and actualized on every shot.

I believe that it is a systematic approach that is largely done before you get down on the shot. You see the shot. Only small 'once down' adjustments during the warm up stroke phase are acceptable before pulling the trigger. If, more adjustment is needed-start over.

For me-there are straight-in's, 1/2 ball cuts and 90 degree cuts from a visualization standpoint. Example-all cuts are half ball hits-unless they aren't. Adjust from that visual benchmark.

I miss alot. Most often, I miss close. If I miss close enough-I make it.

Maybe it's just a definition/comfort level thing-but, I prefer a systematic approach that reflects the total of your positive and negative result feedback instead of a strict system. A strict system usually will have situational adjustments as needed-so is that also a systematic approach.

I like systems for the opportunity to experiment and to add to the experience data base that we call upon in making shots. Choosing the correct shotmaking data for the shot is the systematic challenge. Performing the shot with all its critical elements, as perceived, is not always the result we get, despite a 'go' from the brain.

I really like this game. I wish I played better. Failure, fortunately, motivates.

Just rambling...while on an end game vigil.

Take care