Good, so you won't be making any more references to aiming system kool-aid and the like in the future.
Right?
Right?
Aiming and Visualization
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Your question is completely off-topic and adds nothing constructive to the thread.
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Living Legend
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He is the most instigating and antagonizing member here! he is best ignored Tony
I see you're back again, Champ.
Living Legend
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I have been accused of being about five different people on here already. I was just pointing out the obvious to Tony. It is clear your purpose here is just too instigate and antagonize other members on aiming issues. It is all in your posting history and in this thread also, i have never seen you add anything of worth to a thread other than to instigate,antagonize or warn someone about forum rules. This is the childish game you continue to play on here with every post you make.
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Living Legend
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You think someone has to be around here a long time to figure out what type of person Poolsharkallen is? One read through this thread is enough. You also need to rethink your approach with people if you want them to be social with you.
Just for the heck of it , today I tried to line up and shoot using only my dominant eye. I closed my left eye once I was standing up behind the shot line.
I missed just about every shot badly.
It's not like aiming a rifle.
How the heck do people shoot that are blind in one eye?
Has anyone tried it? Can you do it?
I missed just about every shot badly.
It's not like aiming a rifle.
How the heck do people shoot that are blind in one eye?
Has anyone tried it? Can you do it?
And that -- the bolded part -- is what you did wrong. When viewing the shot line, you need to use the same visual perspective you'd use when actually down on the shot. When you're standing, using binocular vision, you are using two fields of vision "merged" or blended into one cohesive picture. But, after acquiring the shot line with two eyes, if you then go down on the shot with a closed eye, you just lost 50% of your sight picture.
If you want to try this experiment, you should try acquiring the shot line (that is, the standing part) with one eye, and use that same eye going down on the shot.
Try it -- I'll bet you have more success than acquiring the shot line with two eyes, only to try to shoot it with one eye.
P.S.: if you have two healthy eyes, it's not a good idea to close one when playing pool. Reason: your mind is accustomed to having a field of vision composed from input from two eyes, so that's what you should be using. Only players with an extremely dominant eye (e.g. Earl Strickland [right eye], Ralf Souquet [left eye]) or otherwise extreme impairment in the lesser eye (e.g. Niels Feijen [90% blind in the left eye]) should try shooting pool with one eye closed, because their mind is already "used to" discarding the input from the other eye.
-Sean
I just tried that and way overcut every ball to the left, meaning I shot the cue ball more right of where I thought I was aiming. Every time!
By the way, on topic with duckie's thread, I 100% agree with Dave S. (SpiderWebComm) and Tony_in_MD regarding duckie's no-bones-authoritarian stance on things that he himself is still learning.
Greg (duckie), I think if you change your posting behavior to be less "matter of fact" authoritarian, you'll find your habitation on these boards much easier. In fact, folks will generally warm up to you, for your enthusiasm for this great sport of ours that we all share. Many will want to join you on your quest for knowledge. But the moment you come across matter-of-fact on something you obviously haven't mastered or thoroughly explored, you best be prepared to be challenged on it. Based on your experience on these boards thus far, I think that goes without saying, right?
-Sean
Greg (duckie), I think if you change your posting behavior to be less "matter of fact" authoritarian, you'll find your habitation on these boards much easier. In fact, folks will generally warm up to you, for your enthusiasm for this great sport of ours that we all share. Many will want to join you on your quest for knowledge. But the moment you come across matter-of-fact on something you obviously haven't mastered or thoroughly explored, you best be prepared to be challenged on it. Based on your experience on these boards thus far, I think that goes without saying, right?
-Sean
I think I am sort of on the topic? If I was aiming a rifle I would have no problem shooting with one eye. I can't even come close with a cue stick shooting with one eye. It's not at all the same at least as far as I can shoot. I can't even come close! :smile:
Well then that said I am looking forward to your next post that is on target and adds something constructive to any thread. Don't forget to to hug a tree before you post to get yourself into a warm and fuzzy mindset.
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Remember that I said you need to *acquire* the shot visual with one eye, right? That means walking up to the shot, and into the shot, with one eye. Walking up to and into the shot with two eyes, then closing one eye, then going down on the shot -- you should expect to miss badly.
Also, when using one eye, make sure you place that eye properly over the cue. Your shot visual should look like this (where the parenthesis "()" indicate the outer limits of your field of vision):
Correct:
( | ) <-- Cue running dead center through field of vision
Incorrect:
( / ) <-- Cue coming in from the left
( \ ) <-- Cue coming in from the right
Either of these incorrect views mean that your open eye is too far to the right or too far to the left (respectively), of center.
Hope that helps,
-Sean
A reeeaaallly good post Sean.
Seeing the shot line while standing and then bending down to shoot and seeing the same shot line is something that some players have issues with.
Thanks
John
I did acquire it just like you said to do it! When the cue stick looks straight I'm hitting it like I said. A bad miss to the left.
So, Duckie, what's keeping you from responding to anything in this thread that you started??
You say the only real aiming system is ghost ball aiming. How many aiming systems have you spent considerable amount of time with and know well to come to that conclusion? Why don't you tell us just what is wrong with the other 20 or so systems? And why you feel that a system using something you can't even see and have to totally guess at is better than a system that has tangible things you can see to use for references?
You say the only real aiming system is ghost ball aiming. How many aiming systems have you spent considerable amount of time with and know well to come to that conclusion? Why don't you tell us just what is wrong with the other 20 or so systems? And why you feel that a system using something you can't even see and have to totally guess at is better than a system that has tangible things you can see to use for references?
Well-
i am completly one-eyed-dominant. I am just able to see with my left eye-which also became much more worse in the last 9 months (about 30+%). My right eye is kind of cosmetics- sure i m able to see with my right eye that my wife is sitting next to me on the couch............but just if she s VERY NEAR , lmao^^
But my vision center tells me, that the very small ability from my right eye has also influence on my *vision center*.
That s why usually this should also be taught to the student:
- That you have to line up on the striking line standing above!
- That you re standing on the striking-line/Line of Aim with your vision center ALSO on this line- (so that you see the STRAIGHT-LINE!)
Just then you re able to slide smoothly and correctly into the shot. The rest then is a matter of mechanics. I really haven t had many students til now, how had a REAL problem with their dominant eye- if i remember correctly it happened exactly 2 times til now-- one had to do a very small correction and the 2nd guy was completly off (eyes like a falcon, both really good-but was placing his eyes like myself or Niels Feijen, lol!).
It s also a matter of self-belief and practicing the right things-and often it s misinterpreted by the student himself or those *people trying to help....but having no clue what they do*.
As i offered you Shaky- send me the things i need from you-and i ll try to help you out!
lg from overseas,
ingo
Ingo:
I understand. Remember that I *did* try to discourage Shaky1 from learning to play pool with only one eye, with this quote from my post #30:
I say this, because you quoted the second response to Shaky1 which obviously had no disclaimer to learning to aim with only one eye.
I gathered it was just an experiment that Shaky1 wanted to conduct, but I obviously agree with you that even in the situation where one eye is much stronger than the other one, that lesser eye still is part of the mind's visual input, and all day long, the mind is blending the information from that lesser eye with the information from the stronger eye, to give us the visual picture we navigate through.
-Sean <-- doesn't have a dominant eye, but rather each eye has its own strengths