Aiming and Visualization

Jo Sean,

i understood you completly my friend :-)

And i just wanted to show up clearly- that even if you re super *one-eye-dominant* like i am- the very few percentages from the *dumb* eye are enough, so that you have also take care of this eye.

To find vision center is not easy for the few ppl who are really struggling on this topic. but it is much more easy with help and a guy who s a bit expirienced (together at the table).

:-)

lg
Ingo
 
It was just an experiment! A bad one at that! :smile:
I chalk it up to a "what not to do" experiment. lol
Kind of like the day I put dishwashing liquid into the dish washer.
I won't do that again!
 
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Shaky1 said:
It was just an experiment! A bad one at that! :smile:
I chalk it up to a "what not to do" experiment. lol
Kind of like the day I put dishwashing liquid into the dish washer.
I won't do that again!
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Enlighten us, Shaky, so we don't repeat your mistake. :smile:

Why wouldn't you want to put dishwashing liquid into the dishwasher?
 
You will have suds coming out all around the door for about 45 minutes!
You will also need a lot of towels. Your floor will be spotless though!
This was with just 2 little squirts. :o
 
Shaky1 said:
I think I am sort of on the topic? If I was aiming a rifle I would have no problem shooting with one eye. I can't even come close with a cue stick shooting with one eye. It's not at all the same at least as far as I can shoot. I can't even come close! :smile:
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Sean is right on here, and helpful. A few thoughts from me also?

1. Pool shooting is not rifle shooting. I shoot a rifle with crisp sights and a blurry, distant target. In billiards, we want to see the object ball face/point/edge/section/whatever fairly crisp and not be looking at our "sights", ferrule/shaft/bridge hand/cue ball/whatever during the final stroke (with certain exceptions).

2. "Vision center" is better for most players than "dominant eye" for reasons including the ambiocularity of most people.

3. If it's really so important to get one eye over the/a line or vision center dead on the line, than most of us would not be able to score when using awkward stances, jacked up cues, leaning over the table at bizarre angles, etc. I'll allow that Mr. Albrecht and others have much to contribute including sighting shots much better overall using sound principles of aiming, and optimizing aim and stance, but players who miss just because their head is a bit to one side for one session or some shot(s) need to have their stroke and stance adjusted by a teaching professional and not just their aim.

Shaky, if you were missing most of your shots in a certain manner when trying a new technique, I'd love to have you for a student, because you clearly are committed to taking the same stroke and same stance for each shot (or have a very consistent stroke/aim hitch). I can help!
 
BilliardsAbout said:
3. If it's really so important to get one eye over the/a line or vision center dead on the line, than most of us would not be able to score when using awkward stances, jacked up cues, leaning over the table at bizarre angles, etc. I'll allow that Mr. Albrecht and others have much to contribute including sighting shots much better overall using sound principles of aiming, and optimizing aim and stance, but players who miss just because their head is a bit to one side for one session or some shot(s) need to have their stroke and stance adjusted by a teaching professional and not just their aim.
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I have to disagree with you here. For what it's worth, I do not have Gene's DVD, nor have I ever called him. But, I do feel he has a lot to offer on this subject. I say that, because I know how important it is to me. I am one of the few that HAVE to have my left eye over the cue to aim correctly. By aim correctly, I mean to correctly see a straight line as straight.

When I am stretched out, or in an awkward position, I still have to move my head to correctly see the shot, or I will miss. I believe this to be true for everyone. Although most don't even realize it because their vision is closer to center to start with.

Everything starts with the eyes on making a shot. Every single time. No exceptions. You have to have your head in the correct spot to see the aiming or shooting line correctly, or you will miss. You can have perfect alignment to your perceived aiming line, and a flawless stroke, but if your perceived aiming line is not correct, you have no chance to make the shot.

There are a number of tests out there to see if you see the true shot line correctly. I'm not going to get into them here. But, that is foremost in any shot.
 
Neil said:
I have to disagree with you here. For what it's worth, I do not have Gene's DVD, nor have I ever called him. But, I do feel he has a lot to offer on this subject. I say that, because I know how important it is to me. I am one of the few that HAVE to have my left eye over the cue to aim correctly. By aim correctly, I mean to correctly see a straight line as straight.

When I am stretched out, or in an awkward position, I still have to move my head to correctly see the shot, or I will miss. I believe this to be true for everyone. Although most don't even realize it because their vision is closer to center to start with.

Everything starts with the eyes on making a shot. Every single time. No exceptions. You have to have your head in the correct spot to see the aiming or shooting line correctly, or you will miss. You can have perfect alignment to your perceived aiming line, and a flawless stroke, but if your perceived aiming line is not correct, you have no chance to make the shot.

There are a number of tests out there to see if you see the true shot line correctly. I'm not going to get into them here. But, that is foremost in any shot.
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I have been saying that all along!:smile:
That is my main problem! Something has gone haywire!
 
It's okay to disagree with me. As CJ Wiley said recently and etc. its very important, perhaps most important, to assess the aim line from high above the balls in advance.

Further, seeing the line is so very important, I agree with you, that one can get into the wrong alignment, then move the head/eyes without adjusting the stance and hands and then make the shot anyway by stroking toward what your eyes have told you.

I've spent most of my time at AZ over the past month in aiming threads and have chapters in my book and quite a few articles on it so I think it's vital, yes.

However, the concept I'm honing in on here is that a good player doesn't start missing everything when their head and eyes are off two inches one day or their head is a bit tilted the next day. I hadn't played Straight Pool in a long time and ran a few racks this week. I had to make some very awkward bridge and combination shots to keep the run alive--I still made the shots. On the bridge shots over interfering balls my head was almost six feet high and I could still "see" the very thin cut shots I was scoring.

I preach aim and correct vision center as much as any teacher, and stance and stroke without aim is indeed awful, but the exact head position on every shot can be taken a bit far is all I meant.
 
duckie said:
Wth , too much CTE and TOI, in this forum.....
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You bumped your ancient just to say that? You love your contact patch... we get it. You should learn TOI and CTE...they'd make you a better player.

They're each discussed a lot because they've helped a ton of people break through their plateau.

Not a lot of threads discussing contact patches unless you post'm......ain't that somethin'?

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