Aiming at "Center Pocket"

Do you need to know precisely where center pocket is in order to aim center pocket?

  • Nope. All you need is the general location, but precise locations of OB/CB.

    Votes: 37 39.4%

  • Of course. Anything else defies logic.

    Votes: 57 60.6%
  • Total voters
    94
Neil said:
Then, as a BCA instructor, don't you think that just maybe you ought to get with one of the more advanced instructors and learn how? Rather than say that what the more advanced instructors are teaching is outrageous??
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Really Neil?

Is this REALLY what you think is productive here?
 
Andrei8 said:
@fabfastfredyy

I agree with everything you say. However, you may have misunderstood me:

When I take a shot, I always try to send the OB to the center of the pocket. I don't argue about all the factors which influence the accuracy of the shot. Did you really think i don't know all this? :)

But if I only choose the pocket itself as a target I think, and you also know this, that o.5mm can make a difference especially when you choose to put a lot of English on the CB.

The accuracy of the shot, is indeed depending on a lot of other things, cloth, cue tip, CB, vision, hand stability, etc.

That's why we get to vote. As I said, i always choose to aim the very center of the pocket in order to improve that part of the accuracy which relies on this aspect. All other aspects must be taken into consideration at the same time. This aiming is included and, therefore, not excluded by any other part of the accuracy of a shot.

My humble opinion. Now that I'm about to end this post I see something else: "Accuracy has nothing to do with aim". This doesn't sound right. As a matter of fact I think we're talking about two different things.

Of course every shot may be missed even if you're a few inches from the pocket.How can you bet i didn't know that?

Imagine you're throwing a stone in a lake...that's easy. Now imagine you're throwing the same stone in a bucket from a reasonable distance. In my opinion, if I aim the center of the bucket from the first place, I'll have fewer chances to miss compared to someone who doesn't. But, of course, that doesn't mean that a poor vision, a shaky hand or a pigeon, can't make me miss.
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You're not suppose to do this.
 
Neil said:
You obviously either don't understand CTE at all, or you are just trying to be an ass.
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You obviously don't understand my argument, or you are just trying to be an ass. So there. :nanner:

Neil said:
If you understood it at all, you would know that it is a visual system, and your 2D drawing won't prove a thing. If you ever get up here to Mi., set up the same shot totally blocking the side pocket from view, and I will make that shot in the center of the pocket. On your 2D drawing, you cannot get the proper visuals to determine which star it is.
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Which star isn't important. The point is that you must argue that it has to be only one star, and it's impossible for it to be the other stars given that particular CB/OB setup. Because if it's another point, then the CB and/or OB have to move in order for you to pick that other point, correct?

Neil said:
And, with your post history on CTE, I figure that no matter which star one of us picked, you would say it was a different one.;)
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I would say that it's perfectly possible for the pocket to be any one of those stars (or any points in between). Why can't it be? But again, I don't subscribe to the logic of answer (A).
 
jsp said:
I'm much more likely to believe in vampires than believing that you can always shoot at center pocket without first knowing where center pocket is. :thumbup:
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Lol. Me too :) Did I say that?!...

12310bch said:
Andrei, sometimes off-topic or a small hi-jack is the only way to make fun of ourselves for debating the intricacies of a sport as if no other topic in the universe really was of any consequence. If you have a good story and somehow, even remotely connected to pool then fire a way.

How about this: Vlade (the impaler)( who by the way played for the L.A. Lakers) walked into the Forum Bar with a three-legged pig. He went over to the pool table to put his quarter in when an an automan from a local garage walked in. .....well Andrei, feel free to finish the story.

And welcome to the Forum. By the way,do you us CTE? If you truly want impaled , answer that question. :welcome:
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First of all thank you. And...nope. I'd rather tell you the real one. But answer me this: What does Dracula mean to you...any of you...all of you?
Regarding CTE, it depends...
fabfastfredyy said:
You're not suppose to do this.
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Do what? Try to limit the margin of error for improved accuracy? :)
 
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Andrei8 said:
Lol. Me too :) Did I say that?!...


First of all thank you. And...nope. I'd rather tell you the real one. But answer me this: What does Dracula mean to you...any of you...all of you?


Do what? Try to limit the margin of error for improved accuracy? :)
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YOu're new here and can quote 3 people?....I guess our idea of accuracy is different. Do you bank center pocket too?
 
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Neil said:
Getting you to stop knocking fellow instructors that are more advanced than you, you learning something new, yes, much more productive than you jumping on a bandwagon about something you don't even understand.
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When it comes to describing helpful aiming methods (or their helpfulness), Mike Page has evidenced more understanding and is more articulate than nearly every instructor on this board - many of who have proven incapable of explaining what they think they know, yet are eager to sell/defend a lot of unhelpful voodoo.

-Ira
 
jsp said:
You obviously don't understand my argument, or you are just trying to be an ass. So there. :nanner:


Which star isn't important. The point is that you must argue that it has to be only one star, and it's impossible for it to be the other stars given that particular CB/OB setup. Because if it's another point, then the CB and/or OB have to move in order for you to pick that other point, correct?


I would say that it's perfectly possible for the pocket to be any one of those stars (or any points in between). Why can't it be? But again, I don't subscribe to the logic of answer (A).
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You say some bright things sometimes but also you say some dumb stuff, JSP
 
Neil said:
Mike has put out some good stuff, no doubt, and never said he hasn't. As to your statement as a whole- :rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
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What he said wasn't out of line actually. I wont name names, but many instructors on this board tend to market product rather than help out. There are a few good ones, but the less helpful ones make them look bad.
 
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andrei

I'm just trying to find out if its worth explaining why I think you should re-arrange your approach to pocketing balls....or if it's me that got it all twisted. I think it's pretty obvious that if I don't shoot for the center I don't bank at the center either.
 
Masayoshi said:
What he said wasn't out of line actually. I wont name names, but many instructors on this board tend to market product rather than help out. There are a few good ones, but the less helpful ones make them look bad.
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Just to be clear, I didn't criticize ANY instructors.
 
mikepage said:
Just to be clear, I didn't criticize ANY instructors.
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Well, you said whoever said "no" didn't understand the question and both RandyG and Scott Lee said no...... so are you CALLING THEM STUPID?

What ARE you trying to say Michael?

Dave
 
Neil said:
Getting you to stop knocking fellow instructors that are more advanced than you, you learning something new, yes, much more productive than you jumping on a bandwagon about something you don't even understand.
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Neil,

I don't think Mike Page has knocked anyone at all, he has merely knocked a concept that he disagrees with.

In title, I am supposed to be a more advanced instructor than Mike Page. In reality, I HIGHLY doubt that. Titles are worth...well, you know what they're worth.

Roger
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Well, you said whoever said "no" didn't understand the question and both RandyG and Scott Lee said no...... so are you CALLING THEM STUPID?

What ARE you trying to say Michael?

Dave
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Failure to understand and stupidity are two very separate things, unless you are just being bitter and want to throw words in his mouth.
 
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