Aiming for power draw

Hitting the cueball in the right place, timing and a healthy squeeze as you get through the ball at the end of the stroke. Long, straight draw is the only time I will adopt a loop/phillipino bridge.
Watch Judd Trump if you are interested in how draw works on a snooker table, or Ko Pin Yi on a pool table.
 
eg9327 said:
Use a Jim Rempe practice cue ball and dirty chalk while practicing. You will know instantly where you actually strike the cue ball. My stroke had felt pretty "natural", but it was only when I started this did I realize how sloppy my stroke really was.
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You might also try looking at the CB last while practicing draw - it's easier to hit where you're aiming on the CB and your arm will (eventually) learn that stroke.

In case it hasn't been mentioned already, don't forget to hit a little higher than max draw when the OB is far away.

pj
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td873 said:
I just tried the shot you suggested (shooting from 7 diamonds away) and it's actually hard to bridge from there. That said, on my 9' diamond I can get around 18-20 diamonds of draw, with a slightly elevated cue due to the rail. My cloth is maybe 4 years old, but the balls are pretty clean. I shoot with a Cuetec Cynergy 11.8 with whatever tip comes from the factory.

If I was going to guess, I would suggest that your intended tip position is different than your actual contact position. You can verify this by taking your phone and getting some video from the side when you shoot a draw shot. This will confirm/deny your contact point vs intended point, and perhaps illustrate how you can aim lower without getting to your miscue point.

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Do you have new cloth? Has the Q ball been polished? I could not get that kinda draw from that distance unless the q ball was slick and clean. Yet you are quite accurate on the hit. I believe you are using a 9 foot table?
 
The one thing that never seems to get mentioned (on the draw shot) is the amount of tip movement from intended contact point..

It is fairly well known that with BHE side to side movement.....the longer the bridge length the more tip movement you get with smaller amounts of Back hand movement....

The same holds true for up and down movement.....The longer your bridge length is.....the more up and down tip movement you will get if your back hand is moving up or down a small amount on the forward stroke.

So the longer you make your bridge length on a draw shot......the more "perfect" your stroke needs to be....any "raise up" in the back hand during the stroke will magnify the down movement on the tip and thus......launch it off the table.

A way to combat that....Is to start with the tip on the cloth during alignment....(with your grip hand feeling a little higher than normal set up).....Not only does it give you a better view of center CB.......when your grip hand drops down to normal height...the tip raises up slightly but you are still hitting very low on the CB for maximum draw.

The other way to do it (which I suspect is the most common way) is to set up higher on the CB and because you tense up or raise up on the CB you actually hit a bit lower on the CB than you set up for an thus get a draw shot.
 
tableroll said:
Do you have new cloth? Has the Q ball been polished? I could not get that kinda draw from that distance unless the q ball was slick and clean. Yet you are quite accurate on the hit. I believe you are using a 9 foot table?
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Cloth is the original stuff that came with the table in August 2020, so almost 4 years old. [9' Diamond, pro-cut pockets, Simonis 860 HR]. Balls are the new Ararmith 100 anniversary set. They have over 100 hours on them, but are generally clean because I run them through the ball cleaner once a week.

FWIW, here's a video from 2020 [when the cloth was still new]. Somewhat interestingly, it's about the same amount of draw.


-td
 
Philthepockets said:
Grip is the biggest factor, timing the tightening of the grip is often where it goes wrong. You start off loose and tighten too early the tip will rise and you will get less action. Practicing this shot looking only at the cueball is a good way to see what is happening through the stroke.
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Barry Stark gives good guidance on youtube. His Grip lesson lead me to the ring finger as the trigger. It works! Well for me 🤷‍♂️. Interesting that Barry doesn't teach cueball last but he can't deny the success some like Hendry and O'Sullivan attain doing it. I think you make a good point in that it can help in practice even if the other method is employed in competition.
 
I remember really struggling to draw the ball when I was first starting out. It seemed like I was doing everything right but the cueball wasn't drawing back. Eventually I figured out the problem. It was my follow through. I was striking the cue ball below center, but on the follow through the tip was raising up in the air. I fixed this by making a conscious effort to finish with my cue tip on the cloth. Once I fixed that little problem it was easy. Hopefully this will help.
 
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