aiming system ....

Try this

Every day stroke 100 clean strokes into an empty coke bottle. I did it right away. Didn't have to practice it at all. Then fire away. At the least you will be able to stroke straight.
A straight stroke is the biggest deal.
After that practice stopping the rock. All distnces Speed good enough to get anywhere.
When you got that just take and stick and take and put. You will be in the top 5% of players in the world.

Nick :)
 
Roger Griffis uses something similar to what you're describing except the part about "forgetting the cue ball," and he uses the edge, not the contact point of the object ball. I believe Shane does something similar as well.

"Forgetting the cue ball" seems unusual since you're hitting the cue ball, not the object ball with your tip. But to each their own, at least your positioned to the inside of the cue ball, that's a good thing, it just seems like you would tend to over cut shots frequently.

I'm curious, after the cue ball contacts the object ball do you watch the cue ball or the object ball's contact point?

Here's how I do it. Doesn't mean it is right for everyone. And I sure hope I can convey my mental thoughts into text here to explain.

I do all this while standing and or chalking. ( By the way, all this only takes a second or so to see and do, this explanation takes forever.)

I approach the shot considering what position I need for the next shot. In other words, which part of the pocket do I need to make the object ball in to achieve the angle with the least extra CB work.

Then I see a line from the pocket through the back of the object ball and out to the other side of it. ( That is the contact point.) The only point on the object ball of any importance.

One person mentioned somewhere on some thread, "think small" I thought that was good information.

I burn that pinpoint on the equator of the object ball in my minds eye.

Assuming I'm cutting the ball to the left, (still standing) I envision this laser light turned on on the left side of my shaft running down its entire length and ( importantly) out into infinity and moving with the cue stick like a Star Wars light beam so to speak laser thin and precise.

I mentally see the shot in its entirety. I feel it, hear it and watch it happen mentally.

I drop my cue shaft down on the shot, on that line, with this laser line illuminating that pinpoint on the object ball from behind the cue ball.

If I need high inside english this is when I align the shot from behind the cue ball with high inside, or low outside, or any other english I need.

The point is the laser line is going through the cue ball at the point on the cue ball to achieve the english I need, raising or lowering my bridge hand to maintain a parallel stroke to the table surface, and through the cue ball directly to the pinpoint contact point on the equator of the object ball.

OK, now I've dropped into my stance. My cue stick, my body, is in alignment to deliver a straight line stroke. No twisting, no pivoting no nothing just a true straight delivery. (technically, at this point I could close my eyes, if my stroke is truly delivered on this line and my stance angle is correct)

My stick is mentally running its left side along the laser line, through the cue ball and burning into the contact point on the object ball.

I few practice strokes to oil up the old stroke. Then a pause at the cue ball. (very close to it) A recheck of the cue ball to be sure I'm applying the english I want where I want.

Then a very quick glance at that second line. (very important) The line that takes the object ball to the pocket.

Another practice stroke stopping at the cue ball again (very close), now burning my attention to that pinpoint contact point on the object ball.

Nothing else now, just total focus on the object ball. The path the cue ball will take is automatic in my mind with no need to pay it any physical attention.

I then stroke the shot, delivering the cue stick through the cue ball with a subtle acceleration (even on very soft shots) to the contact point on the object ball with total complete focus on the object ball.

I see the object ball all the way into the pocket.

I watch the object ball into the pocket, never looking at the cue ball. Once the object all is made, I'm still down on the shot, I can glance over to watch the cue ball fall where intended if I like.

I had to add this line. Once locked on to the object ball, it would do players good (IMO) not to glance back and forth from OB to CB. Keep your eye on the OB. Don't make your brain adjust eye focus near and far any more, it's not good. You are down, in line and your cue stick can't twist if you are stroking through the cue ball to the contact point. Don't add a variable by shifting eye movement.

Now, for the nay sayers. I know it can't work, I know it's not geometrically good. I know it is way too simple, I understand its impossible to use any english without adjustment. I get it.

But ...understand I don't give a rat's ass if anyone else uses this method. :) I offer this explanation in the event that it can or does help someone who can feel it and use it.

If it works for anyone, then they can save thousands of dollars of tuition taking advanced college courses to try to understand some of those other systems that I've scratched a bald spot in my head trying to understand. :thumbup:
 
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Here's how I do it. Doesn't mean it is right for everyone. And I sure hope I can convey my mental thoughts into text here to explain.

I do all this while standing and or chalking. ( By the way, all this only takes a second or so to see and do, this explanation takes forever.)

I approach the shot considering what position I need for the next shot. In other words, which part of the pocket do I need to make the object ball in to achieve the angle with the least extra CB work.

Then I see a line from the pocket through the back of the object ball and out to the other side of it. ( That is the contact point.) The only point on the object ball of any importance.

One person mentioned somewhere on some thread, "think small" I thought that was good information.

I burn that pinpoint on the equator of the object ball in my minds eye.

Assuming I'm cutting the ball to the left, (still standing) I envision this laser light turned on on the left side of my shaft running down its entire length and ( importantly) out into infinity and moving with the cue stick like a Star Wars light beam so to speak laser thin and precise.

I mentally see the shot in its entirety. I feel it, hear it and watch it happen mentally.

I drop my cue shaft down on the shot, on that line, with this laser line illuminating that pinpoint on the object ball from behind the cue ball.

If I need high inside english this is when I align the shot from behind the cue ball with high inside, or low outside, or any other english I need.

The point is the laser line is going through the cue ball at the point on the cue ball to achieve the english I need, raising or lowering my bridge hand to maintain a parallel stroke to the table surface, and through the cue ball directly to the pinpoint contact point on the equator of the object ball.

OK, now I've dropped into my stance. My cue stick, my body, is in alignment to deliver a straight line stroke. No twisting, no pivoting no nothing just a true straight delivery. (technically, at this point I could close my eyes, if my stroke is truly delivered on this line and my stance angle is correct)

My stick is mentally running its left side along the laser line, through the cue ball and burning into the contact point on the object ball.

I few practice strokes to oil up the old stroke. Then a pause at the cue ball. (very close to it) A recheck of the cue ball to be sure I'm applying the english I want where I want.

Then a very quick glance at that second line. (very important) The line that takes the object ball to the pocket.

Another practice stroke stopping at the cue ball again (very close), now burning my attention to that pinpoint contact point on the object ball.

Nothing else now, just total focus on the object ball. The path the cue ball will take is automatic in my mind with no need to pay it any physical attention.

I then stroke the shot, delivering the cue stick through the cue ball with a subtle acceleration (even on very soft shots) to the contact point on the object ball with total complete focus on the object ball.

I see the object ball all the way into the pocket.

I watch the object ball into the pocket, never looking at the cue ball. Once the object all is made, I'm still down on the shot, I can glance over to watch the cue ball fall where intended if I like.

I had to add this line. Once locked on to the object ball, it would do players good (IMO) not to glance back and forth from OB to CB. Keep your eye on the OB. Don't make your brain adjust eye focus near and far any more, it's not good. You are down, in line and your cue stick can't twist if you are stroking through the cue ball to the contact point. Don't add a variable by shifting eye movement.

Now, for the nay sayers. I know it can't work, I know it's not geometrically good. I know it is way too simple, I understand its impossible to use any english without adjustment. I get it.

But ...understand I don't give a rat's ass if anyone else uses this method. :) I offer this explanation in the event that it can or does help someone who can feel it and use it.

If it works for anyone, then they can save thousands of dollars of tuition taking advanced college courses to try to understand some of those other systems that I've scratched a bald spot in my head trying to understand. :thumbup:


you are cutting on the left side of OB and alligning the right edge of the cue stick thru the contact point....and then you shift? to apply a top left English....then make the shot? is this something similar to the "Carabao" English? thanks














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you are cutting on the left side of OB and alligning the right edge of the cue stick thru the contact point....and then you shift? to apply a top left English....then make the shot? is this something similar to the "Carabao" English? thanks

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Please, there is no shifting, no moving, no pivoting. Cut left, align the left edge of the cue stick to the CONTACT point on the OB. period. Shifting is BS as far as I'm concerned.

Here, I went crazy trying to find this guy's phone number. Get a copy of the video from him. He explains it exactly the way I've been doing it for years and years.


Dave Mullen Ultimate Aiming System 304-615-9368

Ah ... wait, I found this for ya ...

http://theultimateaimingsystem.com/
 
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Most of what you posted in #22 is applicable to DD aiming.:)


OK, I'm not familiar with DD aiming, I'm embarrassed to say :embarrassed2:

I never even knew this fellow Dave Mullen came out with a video that was the way I've been aiming forever. :)

I was shown this by a fellow somewhere around 1968 or so. He ran a small poolroom for the owners and the guy used to run 100s while he was on the phone, cashing out people, talking to patrons. I thought it so amazing how he made everything he shot at, I had to ask about how he was so accurate. This was what he told me back then.

What is the DD aiming system. Does it stand for anything?

By the way, after so many years of approaching the shot the way I do, none of this is really done with any conscious aiming, it kind of just happens now, so I hope I was explaining it ok for everyone who read. :thumbup:
 
Please, there is no shifting, no moving, no pivoting. Cut left, align the left edge of the cue stick to the CONTACT point on the OB. period. Shifting is BS as far as I'm concerned.

Here, I went crazy trying to find this guy's phone number. Get a copy of the video from him. He explains it exactly the way I've been doing it for years and years.


Dave Mullen Ultimate Aiming System 304-615-9368

Ah ... wait, I found this for ya ...

http://theultimateaimingsystem.com/

At least he kept it under $20 for ya ;)

No one said it won't work. How well it works and how complete and accurate it works is subjective. You knock other systems with your clever remarks, and then point fingers for knocking yours. Funny.

As for the system, I'm still curious what contact point we are looking at for 1/2/3 rail banks. We don't all play 14.1 exclusively.
 
At least he kept it under $20 for ya ;)

No one said it won't work. How well it works and how complete and accurate it works is subjective. You knock other systems with your clever remarks, and then point fingers for knocking yours. Funny.

As for the system, I'm still curious what contact point we are looking at for 1/2/3 rail banks. We don't all play 14.1 exclusively.


Ya know what? You are 100% right! Honestly, I was very hesitant to post the method I used for the very reason I got lambasted for it in the past telling me it couldn't work. That was ok in and of itself, I really didn't mind that as much as the craziness of those that did condemn it when they spoke of pivoting.

The smallest deviation in stroke, any stroke, delivery, or hit to the CB can throw any shot off, any miniscule movement off line, so how in the world can they take a system with all these convoluted aiming diagrams, then say " and after you get all set, PIVOT" WTF that is ridiculous. Pivot.

We aren't talking a fraction of a cue tip change, we are talking PIVOT for the love of God. PIVOT what? 2 inches? 3 inches ... You're telling me this is aiming and delivering? Ahhh ... Yep this bothers me because I do love the game and I can't believe the last step in an organized foundation is PIVOT!

Anyway, you're right. Sorry for my frustrations to manifest themselves. Let all aim the way they want. It's just that this doesn't have to be rocket science the way it is being made out to be. It is really much simpler than all that. Sorry ... I'm wrong.

Now, the contact point is the contact point. If you have to open an angle or close an an angle for either position or obstructions then you do so. Banking is so much feel anyway. Speed and english are another animal when you are talking multiple rails and I don't believe there is any exact science to it anyway.

Take a gander at this .... this reminds me of what's needed in a complicated system. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RviRADnyFPs
 
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Ya know what? You are 100% right! Honestly, I was very hesitant to post the method I used for the very reason I got lambasted for it in the past telling me it couldn't work. That was ok in and of itself, I really didn't mind that as much as the craziness of those that did condemn it when they spoke of pivoting.

The smallest deviation in stroke, any stroke, delivery, or hit to the CB can throw any shot off, any miniscule movement off line, so how in the world can they take a system with all these convoluted aiming diagrams, then say " and after you get all set, PIVOT" WTF that is ridiculous. Pivot.

We aren't talking a fraction of a cue tip change, we are talking PIVOT for the love of God. PIVOT what? 2 inches? 3 inches ... You're telling me this is aiming and delivering? Ahhh ... Yep this bothers me because I do love the game and I can't believe the last step in an organized foundation is PIVOT!

Anyway, you're right. Sorry for my frustrations to manifest themselves. Let all aim the way they want. It's just that this doesn't have to be rocket science the way it is being made out to be. It is really much simpler than all that. Sorry ... I'm wrong.

Now, the contact point is the contact point. If you have to open an angle or close an an angle for either position or obstructions then you do so. Banking is so much feel anyway. Speed and english are another animal when you are talking multiple rails and I don't believe there is any exact science to it anyway.

Take a gander at this .... this reminds me of what's needed in a complicated system. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RviRADnyFPs

ok...let me look, thanks






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OK, I'm not familiar with DD aiming, I'm embarrassed to say :embarrassed2:

I never even knew this fellow Dave Mullen came out with a video that was the way I've been aiming forever. :)

I was shown this by a fellow somewhere around 1968 or so. He ran a small poolroom for the owners and the guy used to run 100s while he was on the phone, cashing out people, talking to patrons. I thought it so amazing how he made everything he shot at, I had to ask about how he was so accurate. This was what he told me back then.

What is the DD aiming system. Does it stand for anything?

By the way, after so many years of approaching the shot the way I do, none of this is really done with any conscious aiming, it kind of just happens now, so I hope I was explaining it ok for everyone who read. :thumbup:

"Double the Distance"
It's pretty easy if you can see the contact point on the OB as diagrammed below.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=273900
 
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