All 150 Players to Orlando

Nostroke

Nostroke

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Im sorry if this has already been covered but what is the story with this? People are telling me that everyone on the 150 IPT player list must attend the 43 man event in Orlando or lose their spot on the roster? This has to cause a huge number of drop-outs, no? Especially among the foreign players. It will cost someone like Colin close to $2K for sure. What do you all think?

And yes i know this is Kevin's tour and he can do what he wants.
 
I think it makes sense for everyone to meet before the start of the tour. And what better place than the Invitational?
 
Sweet Marissa said:
I think it makes sense for everyone to meet before the start of the tour. And what better place than the Invitational?
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Should it be mandatory? Should the players be in a sense threatened into showing up even if it places a financial burden on them? There are players on here who know if there is going to be compensation or what the deal is but they don't seem to want to say anything. Are they afraid if they criticize Kevin in any way it will get back to him and they will be in trouble? I kind of wish those who really know would share what it is all really about from behind the scenes. I don't expect to see that though because they are already intimidated.
 
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macguy said:
Should it be mandatory? Should the players be in a sense threatened into showing up even if it places a financial burden on them? There are players on here who know if there is going to be compensation or what the deal is but they don't seem to want to say anything. Are they afraid if they criticize Kevin in any way it will get back to him and they will be in trouble? I kind of wish those who really know would share what it is all really about from behind the scenes. I don't expect to see that though because they are already intimidated.
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Yes. They are independent contractors that in essence own their own small businesses. If you were selected to be allowed to buy a domino's franchise, you would have to attend their annual kick-off convention and their franchisee meetings. Not to mention they require training and other things.

If the money is difficult, then they should find sponsors. Pro golfers and bowlers usually get friends and family together to sponsor them the first year or so and they get a split of the profits. I think pool players could easily do the same.

Cheers,
Regas
 
Sooner or later, everyone would have to meet anyway. There's sufficient time to make travel plans and arrange accomodations.
 
Nostroke said:
Im sorry if this has already been covered but what is the story with this? People are telling me that everyone on the 150 IPT player list must attend the 43 man event in Orlando or lose their spot on the roster? This has to cause a huge number of drop-outs, no? Especially among the foreign players. It will cost someone like Colin close to $2K for sure. What do you all think?

And yes i know this is Kevin's tour and he can do what he wants.
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I know two players that will be there. Both are going there on a chance that the '43' (which are part of the 150, that leaves only 107 players sitting) have some 'no shows' and the 'alternates' are chosen by a random draw. If that is the case, $1K to maybe $2K in expenses for a chance to make $30K+ isn't a bad chance.

I know if I were one of the 150 I would be there, mandatory or not, just to see first hand how the whole sheebang is presented.
 
Remember when he was taking applications and the deadline was firm “No matter who you are” and then he may have given preference to early applicants. He is obviously trying to do something to weed out the irresponsible and select the more professional players available. By-in-large if someone is unable to make it to Orlando for a meeting that has huge potential to change their lives then maybe they don’t handle their personal affairs well enough to be considered a good representative. If he is ever going to make money on this venture he will be selling the entertainment value of it and he must be looking for some particular characteristics for the actors. There is no doubt that there was more than just who played the best pool as far as who made the first cut.
 
I'm sure the 2k would be a good investment considering what they will make at the tour events over the next year. If any player doesn't show up because they don't want to lose this 2k and loses their spot on tour they will be the stupidest person on earth IMO.
 
sniper said:
I'm sure the 2k would be a good investment considering what they will make at the tour events over the next year. If any player doesn't show up because they don't want to lose this 2k and loses their spot on tour they will be the stupidest person on earth IMO.
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If I am understanding it correctly, all players in the 150 selected will win a minimum of approx. $6K for just showing up and placing last in the first Open event (NOT the Invitational). Therefore, even if it costs them a few thousand to go to Orlando for the intiation ceremony (I can hear them practicing "Thank you Mr. Trudau, may I please have another" now) they will still be quids in once the first Open is played. That is, of course, assuming it DOES get played.
 
AuntyDan said:
If I am understanding it correctly, all players in the 150 selected will win a minimum of approx. $6K for just showing up and placing last in the first Open event (NOT the Invitational). Therefore, even if it costs them a few thousand to go to Orlando for the intiation ceremony (I can hear them practicing "Thank you Mr. Trudau, may I please have another" now) they will still be quids in once the first Open is played. That is, of course, assuming it DOES get played.
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If you are right about that then the decision is a hanger. What about the guys that are not IPT members in the Open event? Obviously they cant enter for $1K and be guaranteed $6K. (Imagine the size of that field?)

How does this work? Will the IPT guys start in round 3 like the HOF'rs will in Orlando?
 
Well, in the beginning each player was going to have to pay 899.00 for membership, he did away with that so consider the savings be put toward the trip expense. I think it's a good idea for all of them to be there, players will get a good feel for what to expect.

And I assume everyone will get pictures taken for the website, maybe some video for promotion and some kind of motivational speech:D Players will have a couple of months to promote themselves and the tour, so maybe he has some plans or things they will need to do when they get home.

I think it's something any serious venture would do, I think it's just one more thing that shows the serious intent to try and make this tour long lasting. Never before in pool history have players showed up 2 months before a tournament, all the players will start to think of themselves as a group of touring professionals together with a goal, a single vision.
 
Nostroke said:
If you are right about that then the decision is a hanger. What about the guys that are not IPT members in the Open event? Obviously they cant enter for $1K and be guaranteed $6K. (Imagine the size of that field?)

How does this work? Will the IPT guys start in round 3 like the HOF'rs will in Orlando?
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IPT tour members will be seeded in the Opens, haven't heard about the guaranteed $6k though, that almost sounds impossible, but with 3 million dollar purse, maybe it isn't :D
 
Game Day

Football, basketball, baseball...On game day the whole team is there. Not just the starters. Playing or not playing, they're there supporting their team & the league in general. Even the injured players who absolutely will not play, are there on game day. ;)
 
Timberly said:
Football, basketball, baseball...On game day the whole team is there. Not just the starters. Playing or not playing, they're there supporting their team & the league in general. Even the injured players who absolutely will not play, are there on game day. ;)
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The players, in the sports you mentioned, are all being paid, and paid well, to be there on game day.
 
Rich R. said:
The players, in the sports you mentioned, are all being paid, and paid well, to be there on game day.
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And they are all Team Sports-Big difference!
 
It is tough for the Europeans to go to this opening. Pay 1000$ for a ticket and another 1000$ for all your expences. This looks like a good investment but there are no garentees you get it back. So the first tournament they can play they have to invest another 2000$ and they have to make it to the money or else they lose money they don't have.

But the most important question is what happens if they are not at the opening......
 
I don't mind speaking on this matter openly and honestly.

Sure, it seems a bit crazy to travel half way around the world to attend a meeting as myself, other Asians and Australasians will have to do, but there are a couple of important points to consider.

1. To run the IPT professionally, with players well instructed, themed photos, video interviews and to check the commitment of the players this meeting makes sense.

2. If players think the whole deal is not worth it financially, then they mustn't have any faith in their abilities or the IPT. Why molly-coddle such players when there are hundreds who would willingly change places with them.

Fact is, I've probably got to make at least top 80 on the tour for it to be financially feasible. 4 events + meeting travel and accommodation + opportunity costs of practicing and tour events = at least US$20k.

On the other hand, what is the value of this opportunity if I can put in at least one solid top16 performance and to be seen as a credible player in the World's Greatest Ever Pool Tour? Priceless! A dream of many years come true!

I've no right to complain about being offered this fantastic opportunity. I just better work my ass off and make the best of it :D
 
So far it seems that only the non-IPT members are making a big deal out of this mandatory meeting. Although it may not be the most convenient thing, it makes perfect sense for all members to be at the first event, for all of the reasons already listed in this thread.

I'd like to add that backers are a dime a dozen. A player that is truly financially burdened by this trip will be able to easily find a backer. Every top local player and better knows this, as they often have backers for all of their high stakes action anyway.
 
1) It will show the dedication of the players to the league.
2) It will be a photo opportunity - team and individual pictures for resale and the chance to make up programs.
3) Why the surprise - every pro team in every pro sport does this. And I thought that pro pool players want pool to be called a sport.
4) And I expect this will be the time that KT sets down the ground rules. Dress code for the players and demeanor of the players. He will let them know what he expects of them. His employees.
5) And if I was invited to a meeting with Kevin Trudue I sure in hell would make it my business to be there. Never miss a KT party/meeting. Sure beats sitting in a bar nursing a beer looking for a $20 game.
6) It is of no business of anyone but those selected by KT.
7) If you want pool to change for the better then things will have to change. You can't expect new results if you keep doing things the same old way.
8) If peope don't show up due to distance than it will be more money for the local boys. I bet Charlie, Earl and Archer, etc won't mind if some people don't show up. Besides, when these guys have to play in Asia they have to be there at a specified time if they want to participate and no one gives them exceptions.
 
Colin Colenso said:
I don't mind speaking on this matter openly and honestly.

On the other hand, what is the value of this opportunity if I can put in at least one solid top16 performance and to be seen as a credible player in the World's Greatest Ever Pool Tour? Priceless! A dream of many years come true!

I've no right to complain about being offered this fantastic opportunity. I just better work my ass off and make the best of it :D
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Hey Colin, Good luck to you. It sure is refreshing to see someone with a good healthy positive attitude. May the world be your oyster.
 
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