ALL Pro 9 Ball Productions/Need Improvement

Island Drive

Island Drive

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Pro 9 ball event floor cameras need to pan a little wider/and the overhead camera (enlarge the overhead view) is even more important for the viewers.
Why?

We almost Never get to see their footwork and the entire player..... walking up to their shot.

All we ever get to see 95% of the time is, watching the ball going into the hole. UGH....

It's helpful for the viewers and the Production, to be able see the player do his thing when walking up to the shot.

Could you EVEN imagine watching a pro golf event where we generally only watched the ball being struck, and the ball in the air, and never seeing their stance/footwork/waggle etc.??????????????

It doesn't take ANY extra money to do this.
It makes NO sense.

bm
 
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Island Drive said:
Pro 9 ball event floor cameras need to pan a little wider/and the overhead camera (enlarge the overhead view) is even more important for the viewers.
Why?

We almost Never get to see their footwork and the entire player..... walking up to their shot.

All we ever get to see 95% of the time is, watching the ball going into the hole. UGH....

It's helpful for the viewers and the Production, to be able see the player do his thing when walking up to the shot.

Could you EVEN imagine watching a pro golf event where we generally only watched the ball being struck, and the ball in the air, and never seeing their stance/footwork/waggle etc.??????????????

It doesn't take ANY extra money to do this.
It makes not sense.

bm
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Saying it here has no effect. You need to email Matchroom/AccuStats/Predator etc. and give them your suggestions. Love to hear what they tell you. BTW, i agree that production could be better by all streamers but unless people voice their take how they gonna know??
 
Island Drive said:
Where did I say it ''no effect''?
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Can you read or is comprehension not your strong suit?? You didn't say it i did. What i tried(in vain apparently) to say is these takes/opinions from viewers have NO EFFECT on the stream productions unless they hear them. NO ONE on here can make the changes you mention thus that's i why i said you need to contact them direct. Didn't think this needed explaining.
 
garczar said:
Can you read or is comprehension not your strong suit?? You didn't say it i did. What i tried(in vain apparently) to say is these takes/opinions from viewers have NO EFFECT on the stream productions unless they hear them. NO ONE on here can make the changes you mention thus that's i why i said you need to contact them direct. Didn't think this needed explaining.
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A lot of the developers and streamers do, in fact, frequent these forums. Posting here _may_ actually get their attention. There have been a couple of times they have responded to me here, and actually incorporated my feedback.

You might know lots of things, but you don't know everything.
 
Badpenguin said:
A lot of the developers and streamers do, in fact, frequent these forums. Posting here _may_ actually get their attention. There have been a couple of times they have responded to me here, and actually incorporated my feedback.

You might know lots of things, but you don't know everything.
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Such as?
 
Word Salad....
Happy new yrs Zar, seems we're knocking em around.... mem burrr I apologized for my ness/mess awhile back. and now at the end of the yr. you want do/what/u/due/two/me, hope your good/well/happy....
didn't feel (u dew) it but it wasn't as big a Dig as I DID when I apologized to you, our prior confrontation.
J2Pac where's the coffee girl/Needed Now. :)
To all of us, the days are getting longer again.

HNY posters

bm
 
OK, I'm ready to learn something. Why is it important to see a player's feet while watching streamed pool? If I'm watching live, that's something I nearly never look at.

The golf comparison, for me, does not work. In golf, effective use of the legs and lower body, in many respects, is a fundamental component of generating power. Hip rotation, bending of the legs and knee flex during the swing create a lot of the power needed to hit the golf ball as desired. In pool, the legs and lower body are fairly still during the stroke.

Yes, I know there are nuances in the stance, body position and grip that matter to the greatest connoisseurs, but why would this be important to a mainstream pool fan?
 
sjm said:
OK, I'm ready to learn something. Why is it important to see a player's feet while watching streamed pool? If I'm watching live, that's something I nearly never look at.

The golf comparison, for me, does not work. In golf, effective use of the legs and lower body, in many respects, is a fundamental component of generating power. Hip rotation, bending of the legs and knee flex during the swing create a lot of the power needed to hit the golf ball as desired. In pool, the legs and lower body are fairly still during the stroke.

Yes, I know there are nuances in the stance, body position and grip that matter to the greatest connoisseurs, but why would this be important to a mainstream pool fan?
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Maybe not the feet per se...he wants to see the full body and the mechanics of the shots.

It think pretty much anybody serious about competitive billiards has developed the ability to address the ball and there is more than one way to skin that kitten, so what works for one may be different in many measures than another.

I will add that pool streaming needs the last 3 and the breaks from current UMB and PBA 3cushion offerings.
 
Island Drive said:
Word Salad....
Happy new yrs Zar, seems we're knocking em around.... mem burrr I apologized for my ness/mess awhile back. and now at the end of the yr. you want do/what/u/due/two/me, hope your good/well/happy....
didn't feel (u dew) it but it wasn't as big a Dig as I DID when I apologized to you, our prior confrontation.
J2Pac where's the coffee girl/Needed Now. :)
To all of us, the days are getting longer again.

HNY posters

bm
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Black-Balled said:
Maybe not the feet per se...he wants to see the full body and the mechanics of the shots.

It think pretty much anybody serious about competitive billiards has developed the ability to address the ball and there is more than one way to skin that kitten, so what works for one may be different in many measures than another.

I will add that pool streaming needs the last 3 and the breaks from current UMB and PBA 3cushion offerings.
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I watched the first half of this exhibition match last night. Some of the side view cameras had terrible color balance, green cloth looked almost blue, but they did a good job showing some of the mechanics and especially the strokes. Ignore the wonky blue blasted cameras when they are on stream, but it did a good job actually filming the player's stance/stroke.

I've not finished it yet (watching the rest here in a bit) but I noticed Efren doing a slip stroke a few times, and Mika was in dead stroke. Played on an old GC and with it being an exhibition they were both letting their stroke out and taking multiple rail routes. 5" pockets so they were both playing pretty aggressive too.

sjm said:
OK, I'm ready to learn something. Why is it important to see a player's feet while watching streamed pool? If I'm watching live, that's something I nearly never look at.
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I don't really care about their feet but I like to see their stance and stroke. Everyone "dances" a bit differently at the table and it's nice to watch the different styles. :)
 
sjm said:
OK, I'm ready to learn something. Why is it important to see a player's feet while watching streamed pool? If I'm watching live, that's something I nearly never look at.

The golf comparison, for me, does not work. In golf, effective use of the legs and lower body, in many respects, is a fundamental component of generating power. Hip rotation, bending of the legs and knee flex during the swing create a lot of the power needed to hit the golf ball as desired. In pool, the legs and lower body are fairly still during the stroke.

Yes, I know there are nuances in the stance, body position and grip that matter to the greatest connoisseurs, but why would this be important to a mainstream pool fan?
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I just wanna see the Player in all their natural Quirks.
I wann see the real animal.... And how about those that R....super fast ball to ball pocketers. Fun.
Or Efren scratching his back, to remove the monkey.
I wanna see those that run around the table and arrive before the cue ball stops.

Variety is the Spice/The Red Head of Life

But that's just me....

HNY
Bigfoot
 
jasonlaus said:
I like seeing their grip hand and what it's doing
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Also, there's a few players, that crank their wrist forward, puts the wrist in more of a lock/position. hummmmm
That group of ball strikers (wrist cranked forward) seemingly.... are most always 800 + fargo.
 
Island Drive said:
Also, there's a few players, that crank their wrist forward, puts the wrist in more of a lock/position. hummmmm
That group of ball strikers (wrist cranked forward) seemingly.... are most always 800 + fargo.
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Shane does, who else? I try it sometimes, would like to watch some others
 
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