All The answers are WITHIN YOURSELF, nobody else.

Two great philosophers of science (Karl Popper and John Eccles) stated that with the invention of books (and related materials) humans have stepped out side evolution. The knowledge acquired by humanity is now (for the most part) contained in the written word and we are able to recreate our civilizations from the written word.

Evolution (hard wired knowledge) and experience are no longer required for our advancement.

Joe, please stay with us because you are one of the few people that are worth listening to.
 
give a kid a bike that has never learned what a bike is from someone else. Watch how many years, if ever, he takes to figure out you are even supposed to ride it. He will just spin the wheels around while it is laying on the floor.

Take the same kid, let him watch someone riding a bike, and he instantly knows what he is supposed to do with it. He will spend his time trying to duplicate what someone else taught him. ;)

Statements like this makes be wonder how anything was ever invented. Someone had to make the first bicycle. I don't think there was any type of plans for one in a book.

I don't think the Kitty Hawk came with a DVD on flying. I also don't think the Wright Bros had any simulator time. True flying by the seat of the pants.

This line of thinking just shows the lack of creativity, imagination, curiosity some people have. Some people just need to be spoon fed, its sad to say, but very true. The quote above is a reflection of that.
 
Evolution (hard wired knowledge) and experience are no longer required for our advancement.

This is, to a certain extent, very true.
Our children, at 10 years of age, are more educated than most adults were in 1776, due to collective knowledge, not experience.
 
I find this interesting:

The History Channel did a countdown of the top 100 inventions over the last 500 years. Competing with inventions like electricity, the light bulb, the computer, and the airplane, the winner was the printing press.

We take the printing press for granted today, but without it, all books had to be hand copied. This invention expanded the knowledge transfer 110 fold. Without the printing press, it might have taken centuries and possibly never, that these other inventions would have been created. The internet has similarly effected the speed of communication.

Now for a joke:
A young cocky kid is speaking disrespectfully to an old man. The kid say, "Old man, when you were a kid you didn't even have electricity, automobiles, or airplanes." The old man replies, "You are correct sonny boy. That is why we invented them!"
 
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Statements like this makes be wonder how anything was ever invented. Someone had to make the first bicycle. I don't think there was any type of plans for one in a book.

I don't think the Kitty Hawk came with a DVD on flying. I also don't think the Wright Bros had any simulator time. True flying by the seat of the pants.

They didn't have DVDs, they had birds. That's why many early attempts at aviation involved a design that appeared similiar to how birds fly. The problem is that birds don't really fly by flapping their wings straight up and down, and so there were a lot of failed attempts at early aviation. However, the general idea of an airfoil could be copied and internal combustion engines could solve the power to weight ratio requirements and eventually we were able to achieve some semblance of aviation. Building on that, we eventually get to todays jet powered aircraft.

To answer your question, that's how things are invented. Would an automobile have been invented if not for the carriage? Probably not. Too big of a jump at once. However, someone taking the idea of a carriage and replacing the horses with a motor and we get the "horseless carriage" which is driven by "horsepower".
 
It is the power of will that matters, NOTHING ELSE!!!!

The number of lessons taken and the number of dvd's watched do not make a difference!

People can learn a whole lot from watching DVD's of professional matches such as the ones from Accu-Stats and if you don't that's because as you said earlier your not giving them your undivided attention. Lessons can also cut down greatly the time it takes to learn then again only if one pays attention. Good Luck
 
Duckie, inventors are looking for ways to do things better. The kid is not. The kid isn't sitting there trying to find a better mode of transportation than his feet. He doesn't have a clue what a bike is, or what it is for.

I could just as well set some machine in front of you, and by your reasoning, you would quickly figure out what it is and how to use it. Trust me, you wouldn't. You would be sitting there going "WTF is this thing doing here?"

Neil:

One of the things I've had to come to terms with over the years, is that there are people of the "cradle to grave" school of thought no matter what we're talking about. "Cradle to grave" meaning that everything needs to be invented from scratch, learned from scratch, built from scratch, etc.

Do you remember that "Jasen" character that was posting to Holly's thread a while back, the thread of which advertised a job opportunity working on CSI's web presence? He was lambasting a piece of software that CSI uses as their website framework, and was lambasting CSI for not "rewriting their web presence from scratch" -- building their own web servers from commodity parts, installing an operating system by themselves, compiling the web presence framework from source code, and custom-designing (source code from scratch) a new web presence?

He ultimately got banned because of his over-the-top responses in that thread. But it proved a point -- that folks like this *do* exist, much to the surprise of those of us that trust the achievements and contributions of our fellow folks to build upon. Folks like "Jasen," duckie, the PocketPoint-alikes, etc., do not trust the achievements or contributions of their fellow man, and feel compelled to have to invent things all by themselves, from "cradle to grave." They also try to convince others that this is the correct way to go. Obviously, there's a limit to how far you can go with this -- I don't think duckie built his car from scratch, for example -- but it proves that while the human species is a community-oriented species that builds upon the achievements of others, it also harbors those lonely souls who for whatever reason do not want to participate in that community and see themselves as "one."

-Sean
 
Every major advancement we have in science, medicine, manufacture and even sport has been built on the the sweat, determination, ideas and the backs of those who came before us.....

The old adage is that a fool never learns from his mistakes.... An average man will learn from his own mistakes... But a smart man will learn from the mistakes of others....

Thus far all we have learned from this thread is that 2 of the posters are type A or B and likely have no potential to become type C...... Every time I run into people like this it leaves me saddened....

It's like we all get 100% from the man upstairs... Sometimes we may get 50% of the 100% in physical stature with 25% in intelligence and the other 25% in health and other human characteristics......

Sometimes we may get shorted physically and we get 25% in physical so we are small in stature but maybe we get 50% in intelligence...

None of us get to pick where our percentages go so maybe if we look at it this way we can learn a little more compassion for those of us that ended up shorted in areas that we esteem to be of the highest value....
 
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