All The answers are WITHIN YOURSELF, nobody else.

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Every single question on aiming, stance, preshot routine, anything at all, is WITHIN YOURSELF.

Consider that at some point in time, someone had to be the first person to conduct research, and determine that your head should remain still while you are shooting.

They were not taught that fact by an instructor. They did not read it in a book. They did not watch other players and copy it.

They actually had to sit there at the table, and through hard work, figure it out on their own.

It is ultimately up to you if you want to succeed in this game. You must step up to the table and put in the time to improve. And just showing up at the table is no good. You must have undivided attention. You must feel the muscles in your body. You must be aware of the positioning of your hand, arms, head, and body.

You must pay attention to what is going on inside your body when you stroke a shot perfectly. You must learn what that feels like. It is personal to you. Each person's body is different. Pool shots are different. Sometimes you are jacked up and your head is higher, everything changes. You can't learn it from an instructor.

It all comes from inside, if you truly care enough to learn it. If you are disciplined enough, you can do it. Actually pay attention to what your body is doing. Pay attention to what the balls are doing. Nobody can teach you how your own body is reacting, only you can feel it.

The only question is if you have enough dedication.

Everyone wants the quick solution. They want to go to the instructor and be given the answers. But the answers are within yourself, and they are not easy to find. Nobody can tell you how to do it.

Those who want to do it, will end up doing it. The others will be endlessly searching for the quick fix.
 
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It is the power of will that matters, NOTHING ELSE!!!!

The number of lessons taken and the number of dvd's watched do not make a difference!
 
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I use this analogy/question with my medical students that insist they just need to read/study more:

Michael Phelps won eight gold medals. Did he read about swimming for years or was he in the pool every day?




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Experience is a dear teacher
But a fool will learn no other

the idea that no knowledge is necessary until I figure it out
is some foolish idea

it does not hold true in science,art,music ,shooting guns or shooting pool
it is so patently absurd,it hardly needs be stated to be refuted

the argument is not
Does practice or experimentation occupy an important place
in learning

The question is"Can principles developed through the long existence
of any discipline be imparted in such a way as to speed the learning process"

Should a person start with basics that are proven to be of help, and shown
the best ways or should he find some inner light or grind out one foolish idea after another

Don't reinvent the wheel

Build upon the discoveries and experience of the years

Why do you think the Filipinos are producing so many champs?
They are learning from one another

John Brumback,the greatest bank pool player ever,could show you things
about banking that you never dreamed of,he told me,There are some things that few people ever get if the really good ones don't teach you

The question is not whether a person with no instruction but a lot of determination can beat a man who attends lectures ,but never practices or plays

How many golfers make it to the pro ranks without instruction.

Should our opponents tell us that no one ever told them a single helpful bit of advice,they learned everything in a vacuum,just playing by them self

perhaps they would be true to their principles,but if they ever learned even 1 thing from instruction or playing and observing a better player why not more?,then I ask them to
give up this inner light nonsense chatter
 
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justadub said:
And thus begins the newest chapter in the PocketPoint manifesto...
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I seem to recall a certain somebody saying that although it's possible for someone to have created multiple accounts / identities "for safekeeping," that it was unlikely. ;)

Just elbowing ya, Bruce. I was getting ready to post here, with an observation of how a "new user" with only 51 posts suddenly goes on a philosophical soapbox spree -- as it he/she has "such an established rep" that we the populace should take note and heed this "worldly" wisdom.

But I agree with your notion of it being the latest in the never-ending PocketPoint saga. I find it amazing the hoops that certain folks will jump through to get noticed / feed an addiction.

-Sean
 
sfleinen said:
But I agree with your notion of it being the latest in the never-ending PocketPoint saga. I find it amazing the hoops that certain folks will jump through to get noticed / feed an addiction.
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This might help.

What I find interesting is that of the three current screen names I've noticed, each has different fragments of the condition. I have read that multiple personality disorder has been related to childhood traumas so threatening to the mind it splinters to protect itself, with each personality involving a select few pieces of the whole incident(s).

I'm no psychologist but there are a couple on AZ. Perhaps this is a good time for them to offer some help. I'm wondering if an abusive childhood where the child in question was abused and then humiliated is behind it all. This would explain the Narcissism.

Just a theory. At any rate I'm off to watch some instructional DVDs, I'll be back later.
 
Certain types of information can be relayed well via DVD or personal instruction. Such as Mr. Brumback's banking methods. And the same went for Freddy The Beard's books. Those systems can be committed to memory. But just having the system committed to memory does not assist very well in actually pocketing the bank.

I am not saying Freddy's books were not helpful. They are probably the greatest instructional material for the given subject in the history of billiards.

Let me state something here, I will not start a new topic regarding it. It will be buried in this thread, but it is extremely important.......

Humans have existed for a very long time. It is only in the last 100 years that the rapid rate of technological advancement has led to our need to improve instantly.

The natural habitat for a human being is not indoors with a television, internet, and phone. These inventions are extremely new in the history of humans. Our brains are not optimized to learn from watching instructional DVD's or watching videos of our stroke on tape.

Our brains are hardwired to learn from experience. Because the majority of mankind's existence was lived outdoors with absolutely no technology. The brain learned from experience.

And the same goes for humans today. A young child cannot learn how to ride a bike from watching his mother ride a bike. He will need to ride a bike on his own, and there is no way around that.

With the rapid advances in technology in the past 100 years, people are using different methods to acquire knowledge that have never been used in the history of humans. That is going to lead to some problems. The brain does not change overnight.
 
sfleinen said:
I seem to recall a certain somebody saying that although it's possible for someone to have created multiple accounts / identities "for safekeeping," that it was unlikely. ;)

Just elbowing ya, Bruce. I was getting ready to post here, with an observation of how a "new user" with only 51 posts suddenly goes on a philosophical soapbox spree -- as it he/she has "such an established rep" that we the populace should take note and heed this "worldly" wisdom.

But I agree with your notion of it being the latest in the never-ending PocketPoint saga. I find it amazing the hoops that certain folks will jump through to get noticed / feed an addiction.

-Sean
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You are absolutely right, Sean. Elbow received :p

Ya gotta hand it to him, he's using foresight.
 
Two great philosophers of science (Karl Popper and John Eccles) stated that with the invention of books (and related materials) humans have stepped out side evolution. The knowledge acquired by humanity is now (for the most part) contained in the written word and we are able to recreate our civilizations from the library of humanity.

Evolution (hard wired knowledge) and experience are no longer required for our advancement.

The refinement of hand eye coordination based on knowledge is a personal thing. How good you get depends on you.
 
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WhatsTheSpot said:
Nobody can tell you how to do it.
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WhatsTheSpot said:
You must step up to the table and put in the time to improve...
You must have undivided attention.
You must feel the muscles in your body.
You must be aware of the positioning of your hand, arms, head, and body.
You must pay attention to what is going on inside your body when you stroke a shot perfectly.
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Dont look now but I think you're telling me how to do it
 
Neil said:
give a kid a bike that has never learned what a bike is from someone else. Watch how many years, if ever, he takes to figure out you are even supposed to ride it. He will just spin the wheels around while it is laying on the floor.

Take the same kid, let him watch someone riding a bike, and he instantly knows what he is supposed to do with it. He will spend his time trying to duplicate what someone else taught him. ;)
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And you've opened the door to the big problem Neil.... CONVENTIONAL WISDOM.

Now suppose the child is told to do certain things in order to ride the bike. The instructions that he is given are not necessarily the optimal way to ride a bike.

It is generally accepted that knowledge improves over time.

We assume that today's teachers know more than previous generations. The dangers of conventional wisdom are very apparent in pool instruction.

Who says that placing my hand here will improve my game? How do you know? How do you quantify?

It is a dangerous slope, and I have a feeling we are going to have a good discussion about conventional wisdom and it's pitfalls.
 
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