Aluminum radial pin?

Coos Cues said:
But have you had aluminum pins snap off flush at the butt without abuse? G10 IMO is subject to aging like other man made materials and it happens relatively fast much like many plastics.
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Never.
But I have seen the G10 pin save a cue that was abused. Instead of the forearm and/or shaft breaking, the pin broke, and the cue was easily repaired.
 
Sheldon said:
As others have said, changing the weight (at least an ounce difference) and the balance (very slightly) is pretty noticeable. Aluminum and G10 are very close to the same weight.
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I have no doubt that was the lion's share of the change. The change in reasonance was what surprised me. The pitch of the hit was different...As to the entirety of the why, I have no idea.
I'm just relating my own anecdotal experience.

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CeaseLess said:
Edit: I picked up my cue from Tiger this morning, on a side note Tiger is great, extremely professional, likeable and most importantly do great work in an extremely timely manner. I hung around for a couple hours shooting and chatting and here's my take on the cue after changing the radial pin to aluminum. First off, obviously, it took an ounce of weight off the cue, exactly what I wanted. It sits at 18 oz now, which is right where I wanted it. Surprisingly the actual measurement of the balance point didn't move much, maybe a half inch or so down. But the feel of the balance point DEFINITELY moved and I can feel it. The more forward balanced cues have always steered my stroke, it feels more controlable and responsive to what I'm trying to do now, which feels great but is completely subjective and individual. Now for the controversial part. Did the feel of the hit feel different after the change? Keep in mind nothing else was changed and this has been my player for 2 years.. Yes, the hit feels a bit softer. It's hard to describe, the hit feels the same just a bit softer (maybe not exactly the right word for it) . Not like going from a metal bat to a wooden bat, but more like going from a metal bat to using a metal bat but with leather gloves on. It feels like the vibration through the softer material is felt. To me it feels more natural, like a nice one piece feel. That being said, I enjoy it, feels especially nice on soft and touchy shots, great for one pocket.
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I've had nothing but great dealings with Tiger! Great group of people there. Thanks for sharing your experience with the cue.
 
CeaseLess said:
I also wondered if it was just voodoo, but after trying two different pins on the exact same cue no one can convince me that material doesn't make a slight difference. The difference can't only be from removing an ounce in the middle, it most definitely feels like a vibrational difference, in a positive way for me too.
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Like Kevin Costner said in the movie Bull Durham..."If the kid thinks he's pitching better because he's wearing womens underwear, then he's pitching better because he's wearing womens underwear."

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j2pac said:
Like Kevin Costner said in the movie Bull Durham..."If the kid thinks he's pitching better because he's wearing womens underwear, then he's pitching better because he's wearing womens underwear."

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Well pass me a thong and call me Sally
 
Fatboy said:
Doesn’t have the structural integrity that G10 has and also wears down and makes the threads in the shaft black after a couple years.

It works. I just don’t prefer 2nd place given a choice.
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You think the change in color is from the friction? Yea I think I'll give g10 a try on my next cue.
 
CeaseLess said:
You think the change in color is from the friction? Yea I think I'll give g10 a try on my next cue.
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Aluminum, minus any kind of protective coating, has a tendency to deposit aluminum oxide on things that it contacts over time...That would be my uneducated guess.
 
T411 said:
I didn’t say they cared. I don’t think pool players know very much about metallurgy. I said I think every little thing can make a difference to the discerning pro level player. Understand what I’m saying… to me the hardness a bowling ball would absolutely make no difference because I suck at bowling. To a pro level bowler the nuances make a difference even if he doesn’t know how the ball was made. A joint pin made with a Rockwell hardness anywhere between 70-110… I’d bet money there’s a difference that the average pool player could not tell.
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WTF are you on about?

What would the hardness change in terms of hit or playability? Any joint pin is already much harder than most woods. Any joint pin has a higher modulus of elasticity.

What Rockwell hardness scale are you talking about? A good knife is in the low-to-mid 60's on Rc. Tungsten carbide is in the 80's. What machinable material of Rc100 are you suggesting we try?

Or, are you talking about Rb? If so, then all of our materials are at least as hard as you suggest that nobody has tried.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
WTF are you on about?

What would the hardness change in terms of hit or playability? Any joint pin is already much harder than most woods. Any joint pin has a higher modulus of elasticity.

What Rockwell hardness scale are you talking about? A good knife is in the low-to-mid 60's on Rc. Tungsten carbide is in the 80's. What machinable material of Rc100 are you suggesting we try?

Or, are you talking about Rb? If so, then all of our materials are at least as hard as you suggest that nobody has tried.
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You gotta love it when people make guesses and just assume that everything they said is based in fact. Agree with you 100% here. Joint pin hardness doesn't mean squat to hit/feel.
 
Sheldon said:
As others have said, changing the weight (at least an ounce difference) and the balance (very slightly) is pretty noticeable. Aluminum and G10 are very close to the same weight.
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I like the black anodized pins from Cue Fits. Perry has stepped up his game a lot since he started out. Not your typical "made in china" guy.

To my knowledge there is no "made in America" alternative. Don't really care for his other colors.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
WTF are you on about?

What would the hardness change in terms of hit or playability? Any joint pin is already much harder than most woods. Any joint pin has a higher modulus of elasticity.

What Rockwell hardness scale are you talking about? A good knife is in the low-to-mid 60's on Rc. Tungsten carbide is in the 80's. What machinable material of Rc100 are you suggesting we try?

Or, are you talking about Rb? If so, then all of our materials are at least as hard as you suggest that nobody has tried.
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Careful, he already went full retard.on me.
 
CeaseLess said:
You think the change in color is from the friction? Yea I think I'll give g10 a try on my next cue.
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10000% certain. Aluminum to wood turns black real fast. It will start to look like black chrome after a very very long time as more metal transfer's to the wood. The tighter the pin the faster this happens. <——not speculation, I’ve had a few cues with aluminum pins decades ago.
 
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