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Razorback Randy

Razorback Randy

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I posted on here about 2 months ago that I needed help aiming and I received many reponses about what to do and I want to thank everyone for that.

With that being said I took your advice and set up a weekend with Stan Shuffett. I drove 11 hours from Texas to Kentucky on Friday and 11 hours back on Monday. Within the first 5 minutes Stan showed me that I was finishing my stroke a little off line to the right and it was causing me to be inconsistent and miss shots. We proceeded on through the lesson (his 2 day course) and I learned a great deal. Pro One is awesome!!! PJ I do not fully understand the concept yet so don't question me about it. I don't "fully" understand how the periodic table of the elements works either, but I know it does. I know that I was making balls that I have never been able to make consistenly before with about 15 minutes of instruction - and it just kept getting better.

I have had lessons before where it is obvious that the person wants your money and doesn't care much about you as a player. Not that case at all with Stan - He wouldn't let me leave until I got through all the material and was proficient with it. He was very dedicated to making sure that I was very pleased. By the way his son Landon is a fine person and an amazing player - not only is Stan a good teacher he seems to be a great role model for his son.

Major props to Stan Shuffett!!!
 
Razorback Randy said:
I posted on here about 2 months ago that I needed help aiming and I received many reponses about what to do and I want to thank everyone for that.

With that being said I took your advice and set up a weekend with Stan Shuffett. I drove 11 hours from Texas to Kentucky on Friday and 11 hours back on Monday. Within the first 5 minutes Stan showed me that I was finishing my stroke a little off line to the right and it was causing me to be inconsistent and miss shots. We proceeded on through the lesson (his 2 day course) and I learned a great deal. Pro One is awesome!!! PJ I do not fully understand the concept yet so don't question me about it. I don't "fully" understand how the periodic table of the elements works either, but I know it does. I know that I was making balls that I have never been able to make consistenly before with about 15 minutes of instruction - and it just kept getting better.

I have had lessons before where it is obvious that the person wants your money and doesn't care much about you as a player. Not that case at all with Stan - He wouldn't let me leave until I got through all the material and was proficient with it. He was very dedicated to making sure that I was very pleased. By the way his son Landon is a fine person and an amazing player - not only is Stan a good teacher he seems to be a great role model for his son.

Major props to Stan Shuffett!!!
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Welcome to the club. It's been so long, I completely forget.... what the heck is a contact point again? ;) Stan is the man, no doubt.

Thanks also to the head vampire himself.... Hal Houle. Thanks for changing my life with this stuff.
 
need to get on this

Since having my table back together I have been meaning to call Hal and take him up on his offer. I really want to explore this more as I have just really experimented with it at this point. Is Hal still taking calls?
 
Nice post Randy and Stan is on my short list of people I HAVE to see.

Regards,
Koop
 
Thanking SpiderWebbComm and other Teachers.

As Razorback Randy thanked Stan Shuffett I want to thank Spidey (SpiderWebbComm) for his help. His write-up and follow-up Video on Throwing the Cue has helped me more than anything else I've been shown or read or have seen.
I was a little negative on what he said (but rather than saying it doesn't work, couldn't work and would never work) I thought I would give it a try. At first I was hesitant about letting loose of the Cue on shots but quickly overcame my ignorance and found I was potting just about everything WHEN I followed his directions. I later worked out the Throwing method to best suit me without actually letting loose of the Cue but by holding it in a non-grip way which still sent the Cue in a perfectly straight line.
Now, as Spidey said, I do not miss the cheese when I get to the point where everything is riding on that one shot. Length of the table, straight- ins, off angle or whatever I just have confidence in my shot.
I'll bet the majority of you that read or watched his Throwing the Cue have not really followed up on what he suggested and I think you owe it to your game to give it a real, actual trial.

ps. I also thank him for the Banking suggestions as I have tried them all and selected specific shots depending on the ball locations.
 
Thanks for the kind words, PastPrime. Glad I could help. I know those videos are really off the beaten path; however, I was never one to conform to traditional information just because it was traditional.

I learned the throwing technique from Nick Mannino, who was from the Shippensburg, PA area and was a good tour player. I THINK he learned it from Gene Nagy of New York, who I was told did the same thing. According to Ron Vitello, Gene used to run hundreds and hundreds of balls while actually dropping the cue.

There were times when the CB was close to the rail when he'd throw the cue and the butt would literally drop off the edge (and the tip shot into the air after impact). I believe Gene ran his 400+ run using this technique. Maybe Jerry Tarantola (hopefully I spelled his name right) can chime in and tell us a story - I know he and Gene were pretty close.

Anyways, I knew I'd get flack for that video (and boy did I ever). But, whatever... it is what it is. I posted a Kinister Shot#1 video where I threw my cue on every shot and only missed one out of 30 - so throwing is very accurate.

Anyways, back to work I go...
 
Randy,

Did you go to the Campbellsville tourney on Saturday?? I saw Stan and Landon there and was wondering if you might have been there as well.

Gary

Razorback Randy said:
I posted on here about 2 months ago that I needed help aiming and I received many reponses about what to do and I want to thank everyone for that.

With that being said I took your advice and set up a weekend with Stan Shuffett. I drove 11 hours from Texas to Kentucky on Friday and 11 hours back on Monday. Within the first 5 minutes Stan showed me that I was finishing my stroke a little off line to the right and it was causing me to be inconsistent and miss shots. We proceeded on through the lesson (his 2 day course) and I learned a great deal. Pro One is awesome!!! PJ I do not fully understand the concept yet so don't question me about it. I don't "fully" understand how the periodic table of the elements works either, but I know it does. I know that I was making balls that I have never been able to make consistenly before with about 15 minutes of instruction - and it just kept getting better.

I have had lessons before where it is obvious that the person wants your money and doesn't care much about you as a player. Not that case at all with Stan - He wouldn't let me leave until I got through all the material and was proficient with it. He was very dedicated to making sure that I was very pleased. By the way his son Landon is a fine person and an amazing player - not only is Stan a good teacher he seems to be a great role model for his son.

Major props to Stan Shuffett!!!
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Ky Boy said:
Randy,

Did you go to the Campbellsville tourney on Saturday?? I saw Stan and Landon there and was wondering if you might have been there as well.

Gary
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No I didn't make it. Stan was worried that I would put Landon and himself out of the tourney if I went. LOL Just kidding. Not a chance in the world of me beating either of them. I stayed in Campbellsville, but went back to the hotel where the wife was. If I would have played in that tourney after working with Stan for 11 hours already - my body would have turned up in the ditch behind the Best Western and the wife would have went back to Texas.
 
Razorback Randy said:
Koop you need to get to Stan as soon as you can - you won't regret it.
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Absolutely, logistics is the only problem but I am going to work something to get there.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Thanks for the kind words, PastPrime. Glad I could help. I know those videos are really off the beaten path; however, I was never one to conform to traditional information just because it was traditional.

I learned the throwing technique from Nick Mannino, who was from the Shippensburg, PA area and was a good tour player. I THINK he learned it from Gene Nagy of New York, who I was told did the same thing. According to Ron Vitello, Gene used to run hundreds and hundreds of balls while actually dropping the cue.

There were times when the CB was close to the rail when he'd throw the cue and the butt would literally drop off the edge (and the tip shot into the air after impact). I believe Gene ran his 400+ run using this technique. Maybe Jerry Tarantola (hopefully I spelled his name right) can chime in and tell us a story - I know he and Gene were pretty close.

Anyways, I knew I'd get flack for that video (and boy did I ever). But, whatever... it is what it is. I posted a Kinister Shot#1 video where I threw my cue on every shot and only missed one out of 30 - so throwing is very accurate.

Anyways, back to work I go...
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I've been fortunate enough to spend some time on the table with both Gene, God rest his soul, and Jerry. Gene definitely threw his cue, likened it to Mark McGuire, of home run (and steroid fame), and Tiger Woods letting go of their bat and club after making ball contact. Although Gene and Jerry spent a lot of tabletime together, I don't recall Jerry throwing his cue at all. Havent seen Jerry since moving from NY about five years ago.

Jim
 
I missed it - where can I view the Throwing video. I have thrown my cue many times over the years but usually it's been after missing a ball not before making one. :-)
 
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