Amboyna Burl Forearm

[robertno1pool]

What are your thoughts about whether to use Amboyna Burl for a forearm? Have you made a cue with points using this material in the forearm?

 

[JoeyInCali]

It'll hit kaka.
Even if cored with 3/4 dowel.

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Amboyna burl forearm

What are your thoughts about whether to use Amboyna Burl for a forearm? Have you made a cue with points using this material in the forearm?

I have had some great Amboyna Burl laying around, for some insiration to hit me. I've never used it for a cue, but I'm wondering, has anyone ever used it WITHOUT CORING IT? When you do core it, is it because it warps easily or is it because you are triing to lighten the weight or simply to stiffen it? I have cored wood, for years, to make it heavier or lighter, but those are the only corings I've ever done...JER
P.S. hurry, I feel a rush of get up 'n go, comin' on & I don't want to be sittin' here, when it gets up 'n leaves.

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Amboyna burl forearm

It'll hit kaka.
Even if cored with 3/4 dowel.

Hi Joey, Are you saying the "KAKA" thing, because you've had one or you have hit with many or what? I'm lookin' for 1st hand knowledge...JER

 

[JoeyInCali]

Hi Joey, Are you saying the "KAKA" thing, because you've had one or you have hit with many or what? I'm lookin' for 1st hand knowledge...JER

I hit an ebony cue with ambuyna burl points.
The points was enough to kill the hit.
Of course, there might be some ambuynas that are hard.
Even amybuyna sleeves turn me off. They get dinged easily.
I did have a bloodwood forearm cue from one maker with maple and ambuyna points, it hit well.
I have a cored ambuyna handle, I just won't use it at all.
Good for sleeve maybe if stabilized.

 

[dzcues]

Hi Joey, Are you saying the "KAKA" thing, because you've had one or you have hit with many or what? I'm lookin' for 1st hand knowledge...JER

Here's my first hand experience:

The cue in the links below has an ebony forearm with amboyna burl points, single natural veneer, amboyna burl handle, ebony buttsleeve. Both forearm & handle are cored. This cue is, by far, the most solid hitting cue I've ever made! It literally "rings" when you hit a ball. I'm actually reluctant to let people try it for fear they'll expect the same hit on every cue.

I don't think the burl hurts anything in this case. I believe the density of the ebony contributes more to the hit than anything. I've made many cored ebony cues & they all hit more solidly than usual. It didn't matter if the points were curly maple, bubinga or amboyna burl...hit was great!

http://www.dzcues.com/images/eb amb 01.jpg

http://www.dzcues.com/images/eb amb 03.jpg

http://www.dzcues.com/images/ebony amboyna web.jpg

To Joeyincali: If you experienced a hit like kaka with this combination, I suspect the problem was in the construction rather than the materials used. Or, possibly, the materials themselves were flawed.

That said, the original poster asked about using burl in a forearm. Personally, I'd be reluctant to use even cored burl as the main forearm. However, I'd have no qualms using it either as points or inlays.

Sorry for the long-winded reply. I don't post often but when I do, it's obvious that I have nothing better to do

 

[cuesmith]

Here's my first hand experience:

The cue in the links below has an ebony forearm with amboyna burl points, single natural veneer, amboyna burl handle, ebony buttsleeve. Both forearm & handle are cored. This cue is, by far, the most solid hitting cue I've ever made! It literally "rings" when you hit a ball. I'm actually reluctant to let people try it for fear they'll expect the same hit on every cue.

I don't think the burl hurts anything in this case. I believe the density of the ebony contributes more to the hit than anything. I've made many cored ebony cues & they all hit more solidly than usual. It didn't matter if the points were curly maple, bubinga or amboyna burl...hit was great!

http://www.dzcues.com/images/eb amb 01.jpg

http://www.dzcues.com/images/eb amb 03.jpg

http://www.dzcues.com/images/ebony amboyna web.jpg

To Joeyincali: If you experienced a hit like kaka with this combination, I suspect the problem was in the construction rather than the materials used. Or, possibly, the materials themselves were flawed.

That said, the original poster asked about using burl in a forearm. Personally, I'd be reluctant to use even cored burl as the main forearm. However, I'd have no qualms using it either as points or inlays.

Sorry for the long-winded reply. I don't post often but when I do, it's obvious that I have nothing better to do

I have to agree with Bob here. I've hit with a couple that Edwin Reyes built that were jam up. One of which was the "Skull" cue most of you've seen pics of in this forum. I have two pieces Ed gave me when I visited his shop in the Philippines, that I've cored and air dried and am about ready to build something really special from. I've built two other cues out of cored amboyna that I got from another source just to see how they worked and I see no problems with using it cored or as points in a stable wood forearm.

I like the Amboyna burl so well I had my brother in law, in the Philippines, dig up several rootballs of what was believed to have been the proper species of trees that had been cut by illegal loggers. Unfortunately, there is too much illegal logging in the Philippines, but the people who do this almost always leave a stump and the root ball behind! This is usually the most highly figured wood in the tree. This is where all the burls come from. I've been working on the possibilities of setting up a company in the Philippines that would harvest ONLY stumps and root balls from the legal and illegally cut trees. Part of the process would be to replant at least one tree for each stump harvested. There are a bunch of legal ramifications because most of the better looking wood is endangered and can't be sold as lumber. There are ways around this , I've found out through a Judge friend of mine in the PI who also happens to be an environmental specialist.

I think Amboyna is awesome if properly cored!


just more hot air!


Sherm

 

[matthew staton]

I had a prather cue with ebony forarm 3 tulipwood points and 3 ambony burl points with a southwest pin with a south west pin one of the best cues I ever hit.

 

[robertno1pool]

Amboyna burl forearm

Thanks for the help.

I was considering an eight (8) point cue with ebony points and Amboyna burl forearm. No doubt the ebony points will work. Question was more about the burl wood.