AMBOYNA BURL! Unknown maker? Ideas?

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gonegray

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I just purchased this cue from a guy in Colorado Springs. He inherited it from his uncle who passed. I cannot find out who the maker is. There is no signature or distinguishing marks. I was hoping that someone might have an idea. Couldn't find anything after hours of searching online. Any ideas from my pro-pool AZ friends?

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Thanks for the help...

Gonegray (Michael)
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Looks like 3/8 x 10 brass pin. This is most likely a Jenor Urate, "Ronj" cues or made by his nephew Steve, "Vhante" cues. I would say it's no more than a few years old. I have seen this cue somewhere, maybe ebay.
 
It hits well, but there is a very slight imperfect roll in the butt, right at the top of the wrap I think. :( Seems like that is not too unusual of the Filipino cues?
 
I'm also with feltmaster. I have a Jenor cue. He uses this style bumper and there is no weight bolt just drilled few inches. He also recesses his bumper this way. also, my joint protectors are identical style. He does not sign the cues anywhere. He has about 5 people working for him. They do great inlay work. Hope this helps!:thumbup: Great looking Cue.
 
gonegray said:
It hits well, but there is a very slight imperfect roll in the butt, right at the top of the wrap I think. :( Seems like that is not too unusual of the Filipino cues?
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Some of the other Philippine made cues, can incur a little bit of roll since the woods come from a very tropical country and the change in climate makes some of the woods used, behave differently...But its just some, a few percentage at most, some woods being used by other cue makers there are very well cured and can adjust to changes in climates
 
That makes sense, about the tropical climate and high humidity affecting the wood curing. Thanks!
 
baji314 said:
Some of the other Philippine made cues, can incur a little bit of roll since the woods come from a very tropical country and the change in climate makes some of the woods used, behave differently...But its just some, a few percentage at most, some woods being used by other cue makers there are very well cured and can adjust to changes in climates
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just about every cue from the PI i've seen in the states has warped. they all looked good though

i read on here somewhere that if woods warp due to climate change they'll actually go back to the way they used to be if they're returned to the right climate
 
poolplayer2093 said:
just about every cue from the PI i've seen in the states has warped. they all looked good though

i read on here somewhere that if woods warp due to climate change they'll actually go back to the way they used to be if they're returned to the right climate
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That's true. I have a JD that has a wobble to it "sometimes". If I'm in a humid room it seems to roll perfect.
 
poolplayer2093 said:
just about every cue from the PI i've seen in the states has warped. they all looked good though

i read on here somewhere that if woods warp due to climate change they'll actually go back to the way they used to be if they're returned to the right climate
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I would have to disagree on this one my friend for I own a cue made by the late Edwin Reyes, made in the Phils and brought here and its still straight as an arrow. But as I have said, a small percentage of cues from the Phils. can be warped when brought to the states.

As far as the cues going back to the right climate, I have no ideas :D
 
If it were a Viattorre, there should have been a "Viattorre" signature. The pin is not the type that Viattorre used to have

Some cues from the States (even from the known custom makers) when brought here in the Philippines can also warp just like when cues here from the Philippines or from any other humid country are brought there (our local cue makers who often do repairs of imported cues can attest to that)... Perhaps proper acclimatization of cues could solve this problem
 
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I have had seen and shot with several Vhante cues and ALL of them were signed on the forearm. And they were ALL straight. So if it does not have the Vhante signature by Steve Urate I would prob rule him out.
 
flyvirginiaguy said:
I have had seen and shot with several Vhante cues and ALL of them were signed on the forearm. And they were ALL straight. So if it does not have the Vhante signature by Steve Urate I would prob rule him out.
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This is not always true, I have had several Vhantes (15-20) that were not signed that I custom ordered. If this cue was made for someone in particular it is very possible it was not signed. His ebay cues generally were signed.

The issue here is that Manila has a several cue makers, and they (designers, builders..etc..)go from shop to shop. Steve is not currently making cues, but the people who worked with him still are. Check "Shakerah$cue" on ebay, that's where Steve's people are now. This may even be one of their cues from that shop.
 
Alot of the jenor urate ,( ronejcues) , steve urate(vhante cues)which steve makes both along with others, steve just does vhante alone i heard, but i never seen one go for over $200 us, and ronejcues doesn't sign them anymore the ones i bought years ago had a decal logo on the butt cap then he went to signing the forarm to not signing them at all. They all warp after time here in the states,
 
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