An appropriate apology:

No, because the original intent is to decrease defelction

WheatCues said:
I have heard other cuesmiths modifying the hit of the predator shafts by coring and inserting a wood tenon just as you have mentioned and they all seem pleased with the result as well as adding a different ferrule composition... but isn't that pretty much cancelling out the feel and playablility of shafts original intent ???


Or are you refering to a solid wood shaft modification ???



- Eddie


No, because increased feel isn't the point of the low defelction tech.. The point is to decrease defelction and squirt so that players who are learning don't have to adjust as much for using side spin, etc... The porblem with that is that many players have developed different consistent ways of adjusting with sya" BHE" and the pivot points on low deflection shafts are too far back to be conducive to standard play...
 
You know, I hope that I am not jumping on a "dead horse" here, but stating that you hate the hit of a cue or that you feel they hit like crap isn't a knock on a makers craftsmanship. It is a statement of what feels good to you and what does not. I also believe that if all cues made by a top-notch cue maker plays the same then it isn?t really custom made to your specs it is only made to your aesthetic instructions. I feel that a true custom made cue is one that is adjusted to fit you specifically in areas such as balance point, weight, length, and taper. That is what Eddie does for you. He will make a cue that is just like whatever cookie cutter you want it cut from, or he will build one for you to your IDEA of a perfect playing cue. Hell, the tip alone changes the way a cue feels, sometimes that is all it takes, sometimes you need to adjust the weight or different tapers in the shaft. He will work with you to get it where you want it. If you want to get into a cue builder while the price is right, then I would suggest that you give him a try. How many of you a kicking yourself in the head because you passed up that Eric Crisp two years ago. Or you sold that Searing 6-7 years too early? He has been at it a long time. I have had him do everything from repair work for me to building a cue and if I did not like something about it, he worked with me until it was primo.
 
Jaden said:
No, because increased feel isn't the point of the low defelction tech.. The point is to decrease defelction and squirt so that players who are learning don't have to adjust as much for using side spin, etc... The porblem with that is that many players have developed different consistent ways of adjusting with sya" BHE" and the pivot points on low deflection shafts are too far back to be conducive to standard play...


Ohh ok ! I understand completely... thanks, for going into detail !

I will do some R&D myself as soon as I get caught up with the recent cue orders from customers I now have from this site !

Thanks again, Happy New Year !!!!


- Eddie Wheat
 
WheatCues said:
ok, but I took that personal just as you guys did with mine, so you see we are all wrong here and even after all of these posts, nothing has really been accomplished as a matter of fact we might even have regressed abit as humans... lol !

But seriously, I don't need a dictionary, I just type too fast for my own good then I have to go back and correct the errors... I'm sponteaneous with my remarks and posts, I do not sit back and think them out, so type it all out then go back and make corrections as needed !

I'm not bragging but I do have college degree so I am educated and honestly have a pretty good vocabulary so out of respect to all of you, I treat you with the same education and utilize a respectable vocabulary rather than talking down to you like a bunch of rejects from the hood !

Like I said before, to know me is to really like me, but I simply don't take crap from anyone, if I did then I wouldn't be plain old me !!!

I have no problems or ill will toward any of you including klopek, but you can't fire at me and expect me to back down, I have too much heart for that, and if you think that's heart, you should see me play, I'm a tough one to beat for the money, I'll play for hours even days, and as long as theres money in my pocket you won't win becasue I WILL wear you down !

I simply wanted to offer the same quality work at a practical realistic price... if I can replicate every single hit on the market then how am I wrong ??? if I give you exactly 100% everything you want in a cue how am I inferior ????

This cuemaking business is alot of smoke and mirrors, let's cut the fat off "price" and analyze the principles:

Wood costs/joint pin/collars/wrap/shaft/ferrule/tip/rubber bumper... theses prices are the same across the board.. for example : do you think kercek or searing or motti pays more or less for there wood than I do ???? we all buy the same woods we just have different suppliers but the majority of us buy from the same companies ... so what justifies the severe price increase... the labor ????? hell no it only takes a few days to put an elaborate cue together given that the wood is aged and at it's ready stage for assembly, you honestly believe that a 2/3 or 4 yr. waiting list is comprised of hundreds of people waiting to get a cue and that this cuemaker is working ridiculous hours to attain his goal ???? if you really believe that you have be bamboozled !!!!

Most cuemakers do not want to work that hard, so they put a few hours in a day turning woods and some assembly.... most of you are so consumed by the hype that you think the longer you wait for a cue that he must be doing something really special.... sorry ! isn't true... he's gone fishing !!!

I don't mean to rain on anyones parade but I think certain issues need to brought to light, there isn't some old guy with gray hair sitting in front of a 1940's lathe with bi-focal magnifying glassed strapped to his forehead with a light on it using an exacto-knife and a wood chisel building your cue !

We all use machines now ! this is the 21st century there are mabey 2 tatoo artists left in the industry the rest are using state of the art 15000.00 CNC milling machines like the one I have and even more expensive ones to do all those intricate inlays...

But still the cue must be assembled by hand and that is where the difference lies, but still does not justify jacking up the price of a cue to ridiculous price tags.... unless there are diamonds and rubies in that cue anything over 1000.00 is silly... because all the inlays in the world won't help you play any better !

There are some very expensive woods out there and I'll be more than happy to provide all of you with realistic market prices of exotic hardwoods and then let you determine how many mortgage and car payments these notorious cuemakers are making off of you !

It's ok to get paid well for your time, but this is pool... it's the most poverished sport in the U.S. so why should the the cues be so overpriced when theres no way to reimburse yourself through playing, unless you are a top pro and then they get them for free anyways, you have no need to spend that kind of money on art, unless you are a collector and image means more to you than reality... even professional hustlers understand this concept and do not buy flashy cues !

I'm not knocking any cuemaker in particular, I'm just saying prices of cues have gotten way out of hand and it's nobody's fault but the consumers, you agree to pay these outrageous prices for wood and want to be a status symbol and this why we a forced to spend 1500.00 dollars for a 500.00 cue.....

Unless you are absolutely the rolls-royce of cue makers, you shouldnt be commanding prices that only art collectors can afford, becasue there are more blue-collar players in this game than there ever will be of any other class and it's not fair to highroll the main body that supports the cuemakers and makes this game as competitive and wonderful as it is !


- Eddie Wheat

thank you for all your support of the billiard industry.
 
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