You must be doing something wrong then lol. League normally end up just that☺. Talked about it in some earlier league threads
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You must be doing something wrong then lol. League normally end up just that☺. Talked about it in some earlier league threads
I see. It's been discussed here before that when players with similar skill levels match up then push could be an option.
Do you think the push on a 9 ft is different than a push on
a bar table? A different thought process or different strategy. The objective is ultimately the same, but does the
shot or placement need to be different?
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You must be doing something wrong then lol. League normally end up just that☺. Talked about it in some earlier league threads
Yea, so where are the blow-job leagues?
I feel like I'm really missing out.
EVERYWHERE! Don't ya get it lol?
...apparently not.....
You have made many assumptions about the league so maybe your should not speak concerning them.
Pace of play is typically fine. It is not common, at least not in my area, to have slow players. They have suggested average times for shots and coaching. Ultimately it is up to the teams and their players to enforce and encourage it.Typically if you get on them or their captain they pick up the pace.
Your implication that 9' tables and players are superior are also assumptions. As I mentioned before, I understand 9' players enjoy the extra room and openness that size table provides as they aren't as good at dealing with the clutter that a 7' table provides. So if you enjoy the 9' tables and the benefits it provides you then by all means keep playing on them. But quit thinking just because you do you are superior to someone that plays on a 7' table.
The push is for panzies.
So you made a ball and got stuck so you want to initiate an "ego challenge". How about instead of being such a pussy, you try to get a good hit or suffer the consequences for not being able to?
So your opponent didnt make a ball on the break and you can't get to the next so you want to initiate an "ego challenge". How about instead of being such a pussy, you try to get a good hit or suffer the consequences for not being able to?
Why don't we go back to the way it use to be and extend this panzy move to anytime you can't see the next ball and not just the first shot after a legal break being you don't want to be a man and step up to the challenge?
So you made a ball and got stuck so you want to initiate an "ego challenge". How about instead of being such a pussy, you try to get a good hit or suffer the consequences for not being able to?
So your opponent didnt make a ball on the break and you can't get to the next so you want to initiate an "ego challenge". How about instead of being such a pussy, you try to get a good hit or suffer the consequences for not being able to?
Why don't we go back to the way it use to be and extend this panzy move to anytime you can't see the next ball and not just the first shot after a legal break being you don't want to be a man and step up to the challenge?
Skippy......I beg to differ.....my opinion about pace of play is based upon actual facts.
You can offer other facts that dispute, disprove or refute based upon your experience.
Mine are based upon personally participating in local APA for two consecutive years
& firsthand observation of local APA contemporaneous pace of play, even during playoffs.
In any event, APA is good for the billiard industry and in particular, pool parlor operators
since today's marketplace has morphed into a different genre of pool player. And I know
and have learned when you practice and play on a harder field or conditions, you only
get stronger and better......like to stuff a basketball, go the playground and use the kiddie
hoops. Personally, I prefer to play on ten ft. baskets and yes, playing on bigger pool tables
with smaller pockets will strengthen your game if you have good fundamentals and stroke.
Matt B.
You can offer other facts that dispute, disprove or refute based upon your experience.
Mine are based upon personally participating in local APA for two consecutive years
& firsthand observation of local APA contemporaneous pace of play, even during playoffs.
In any event, APA is good for the billiard industry and in particular, pool parlor operators
since today's marketplace has morphed into a different genre of pool player. And I know
and have learned when you practice and play on a harder field or conditions, you only
get stronger and better......like to stuff a basketball, go the playground and use the kiddie
hoops. Personally, I prefer to play on ten ft. baskets and yes, playing on bigger pool tables
with smaller pockets will strengthen your game if you have good fundamentals and stroke.
Matt B.
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Huh?
I am not sure where you get "ego challenge" If someone plays a lockdown safe that is one on thing but if you just broke and ran a rack or two and then make one on the next break with no possible way to get to the next ball, you shouldn't be punished. Especially they way APA is scored. Even an average 5 or 6 can make balls and it basically erases what you just did.
I am not sure where you get "ego challenge" If someone plays a lockdown safe that is one on thing but if you just broke and ran a rack or two and then make one on the next break with no possible way to get to the next ball, you shouldn't be punished. Especially they way APA is scored. Even an average 5 or 6 can make balls and it basically erases what you just did.
The point of a push is for you to put the cue ball in a place where you think you can succeed and your opponent can't. They step to the table and decide if they want to try or pass it back to you.
Why not? What about if you can get to the next and screw up your leave for the following one, should you not be punished then too? What if you scratch, should you get to redo the break? What if the next ball can't possibly be made because it is tied up, should you get to spot it?
Bottom line is that you want it because it makes the game easier for you.
justaplayer
Banned
Piss off Skippy
I'd run you over on a pool table.
Bar box APA pool is a joke. You are playing a game that's like comparing checkers to chess. It and you are a waste of time.
justaplayer
Banned
So you should call out the next good 9 foot table player you see and show him your amazing 2 ball run. Better yet ask him if he'd like to play for money and watch how quickly he posts.
I'm gonna call you Patches...cause that's all you ever gonna win.
See ya Patches
justaplayer
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justaplayer
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Bet
Super billiards April just text your number. 200 a set, race to 9 , 3 sets minimum.
Maybe, but my thoughts are if they can play 9 ball with all of the APA rules and restrictions, they could learn if they execute a pushout.
I have played 1, 2, 3 level players and they get hooked after the break too...
Ken
I don't like APA 8 ball but I really like APA 9 ball. Not having the push out sucks though, I think it's the one rule that needs to change. It's easy enough to learn so that's not why. I think they do mean it as an additional handicap but I think it's just sorta silly, particularly since you can't use a jump cue when there's no kicking path. It's a bad rule.
justaplayer
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You really don't understand it do you?
Looks like you are in the right place Patches.
Quit apa about a year ago or so. Never looked back. Played in TAP before I quit apa. Tap is far superior to APA. I eventually quit tap and just got into action and tournaments when I became a father. Now i am playing tap again because my old team asked if I would. Just one night a week, every other week because my wife was against it lol.
But I do appreciate leagues, it does involve people and get their attention. But most league players will never take it serious and just wasting their money. they seem to be happy with that, some people just do not have a desire to exceed their current level.
Most life long leaguers would rather stay a low ranked player so they do not have to try hard and make their odds of going to vegas easier. You can say that about any league but with TAP it is a game race to your handicap in 9ball. So even if someone tries to manipulate the handicap, I would rather race to 7 games before an under ranked 3 gets to 3 instead of making 75 points to their 25. (Highest handicap in tap is 7)
Anyways, you do not get better watching other people play. But if you like the social drinking aspect with no desire to get better or learn what real pool is, then join APA.
Also, just like anything in life there are outliers, i am not referring to them, referring to the majority.
But I do appreciate leagues, it does involve people and get their attention. But most league players will never take it serious and just wasting their money. they seem to be happy with that, some people just do not have a desire to exceed their current level.
Most life long leaguers would rather stay a low ranked player so they do not have to try hard and make their odds of going to vegas easier. You can say that about any league but with TAP it is a game race to your handicap in 9ball. So even if someone tries to manipulate the handicap, I would rather race to 7 games before an under ranked 3 gets to 3 instead of making 75 points to their 25. (Highest handicap in tap is 7)
Anyways, you do not get better watching other people play. But if you like the social drinking aspect with no desire to get better or learn what real pool is, then join APA.
Also, just like anything in life there are outliers, i am not referring to them, referring to the majority.
haha, could not agree more, bangers will never understand how intricate pool is. A push is simply a strategic shot just like a safety. The reason push is allowed in everything but apa is because the break is not considered a skill shot, now you can be a great breaker and also learn the break, but still not considered a skill shot.
Next he will ask why did you play safe, do you not have the balls to hit it as hard as you can and pray? lol.
justaplayer
Banned
Well you can't fix stupid. You just hope it goes away. Problem is these guys are 75 percent of what's left in pool. Which is why its going in the toilet. Bunch of young guys who want instant gratification without the effort.