Annoucing the True Rack
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I paid $10 for the Magic Rack and I get a perfect rack every time. And I can take it with me. Not trying to slam the OP or the product, but I just don't know how much of the market share this is going to garner, considering the alternatives are all pretty well established, and in the case of the Delta rack or the Magic Rack, still growing.
This looks like a high quality item and personally I think it looks easy to use.
However, on my home table I would use a different, 3 sided rack but would desire this for going to the bar/hall/league. For that alone, even appreciating high quality goods, I would not be willing to spend $130. I think you probably have one hell of a profit margin, but if you produced something like you mentioned being cast and slightly more cost effective for around $50 I would be all over it.
Which brings up my next question, why not cast this and use a finishing process instead of using a highly wasteful (on material) process that requires much more machining ect? I ask this since it is only two sides. I would understand you being able to hold tighter specs but since you are pulling it together and its not "permanently assembled in place" like a three sided rack, this should not matter. Just curious there.
Its always great to see innovative, quality products and I hope you have the market to do well with it.
However, on my home table I would use a different, 3 sided rack but would desire this for going to the bar/hall/league. For that alone, even appreciating high quality goods, I would not be willing to spend $130. I think you probably have one hell of a profit margin, but if you produced something like you mentioned being cast and slightly more cost effective for around $50 I would be all over it.
Which brings up my next question, why not cast this and use a finishing process instead of using a highly wasteful (on material) process that requires much more machining ect? I ask this since it is only two sides. I would understand you being able to hold tighter specs but since you are pulling it together and its not "permanently assembled in place" like a three sided rack, this should not matter. Just curious there.
Its always great to see innovative, quality products and I hope you have the market to do well with it.
I only posted a price after I was asked. I was just introducing my rack as most haver seen it. I might very well put some over in the for sale section but initially this is an information thread on the True Rack.
Thanks for looking at it.
First thanks realizing it is for people who play out away from home. I do not expect this to be for everyone but if a person cares about the rack and they are playing on a bar box this can help rack the balls, very important in the new rack your format that is becoming very common. Even more so with 10 ball big table or small.
I designed the rack out and subbed out all manufacturing which has made it more expensive than it would be if I made it all in house. I tried to make it as high a quality as possible. Perhaps with the attention to detail, source of machining and finish quality I have priced myself out of the market. I look at what I have made and know I made it as well as I could and currently I do not plan to diminish the quality. I am glad I have a True Rack in my bag. I hope you get a chance to try one and would love to hear your opinion afterwards.
Thanks, that is why I made them in the first place.
Thanks. I am glad to see a post from someone who has tried the rack. I hope to hear more from others as the racks start being seen and used.
Every player that uses the True Rack will find that it is one of the only racks that truly freeze the balls perfect, if the balls don't freeze right then all you have to do is spread the rack slightly and the balls will reform. since i have used the rack in the last few months in big tournaments I have gotten 2 First, 4 second consecetively and lost 3 out of 4 on the hill. And 1 third. The rack is convenient to carry in the bottom pouch of your pool case and easy to use when you have used it a coulple of times.
Maybe put one in the rotation for review? Kinda like the cue build off? I would sign up for a test drive in a minute as my wooden rack is busted on one corner...its workable, but busted.
It does look like a solid product and the portability is sweet.
It does look like a solid product and the portability is sweet.
two pieces of aluminum & a henge = $130. OMFG. I saw it immediatelt thought "hey that's not a bad idea" I would shell $25 bucks of so for one... Then I saw 130, I giggled. I sincerely hope you have just marked this up REDICULOUSLY and this price is not a result of production cost... if it is, I genuinely hope you dont lose your shirt on this or I hope you have another shirt to replace the one your about to lose. No offense obv. Just saying.
With all due respect, I believe this has more to do with your pool-playing proficiency than it does the True Rack itself. I mean, your opponents were using the rack too, weren't they? It didn't help THEM win!
All-in-all, I like the portability of this rack. If I didn't already have TWO Delta-13 racks, I'd probably buy this rack. Adding up all the money I've spent on pool gadgets/cues/cases over the years, $130 is not even a chink in the armor!!! Plus, give it a year or two and you will probably be seeing this rack selling for under $100
!!!Maniac
If it truely cost anywhere close to that, even with a healthy margin its crazy. If so, I can show you how to make it much, much less expensive without reducing the quality. This product should not cost more than 5-10 dollars to manufacture and assemble.
I have to agree with the majority of the others here. Great product. Portable, sturdy, adaptable to all ball sizes, etc.. but your price tag is way off man. I paid less than $100 for my engraved Delta-13 elite.
I realize that the purpose of a business is to make money, but you are either marking this up way too much or you are getting screwed on the cost of getting them made in the first place. I think your price point for this needs to be less than $50 if you expect people to even think about buying another rack.
just my opinion here....
I realize that the purpose of a business is to make money, but you are either marking this up way too much or you are getting screwed on the cost of getting them made in the first place. I think your price point for this needs to be less than $50 if you expect people to even think about buying another rack.
just my opinion here....
And......a reasonable opinion to be sure. I can tell you this, although I already own two Delta racks (an Elite and a standard model), I would still buy this rack to put in my gadget bag IF the price was under $50.
Maniac
Ditto, if the price on this was less than $50 I would place my order today. I play at a lot of places where the racks are just crap. But how much is it worth it to me to carry a decent portable rack? $130? Nope! $50 or less? Yeah, I think so.
I saw these racks at Joe Blackburn's "shop" at the BCA in LV on May 14th.
The quality and construction of them is superb. They are very solid and look like they will last a lifetime.
However, like the other posters here, I would have bought one on the spot for even up to $75. But I could not find it in myself to pay $130 for one.
I do hope you succeed with these racks and can then somehow bring the cost down due to manufacturing efficiencies and cost of investment recovery. If so please let me know and I will order one immediately.
Thanks,
Ron
The quality and construction of them is superb. They are very solid and look like they will last a lifetime.
However, like the other posters here, I would have bought one on the spot for even up to $75. But I could not find it in myself to pay $130 for one.
I do hope you succeed with these racks and can then somehow bring the cost down due to manufacturing efficiencies and cost of investment recovery. If so please let me know and I will order one immediately.
Thanks,
Ron
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Still have my shirt just missing a button or two so far.....
In case you are worried about me, I have not bet the farm on it but I did make a few extra racks for other discerning players who travel away from home to play. FYI - There is less than that Dawg, there are just two pieces of billet aluminum and a ground tool steel pin, the two pieces together form the hinge. Extremely simple design. The result is an elegant high quality rack.
I built the True Rack because I wanted a quality portable rack and I love mine.
It would be great look at what Delta did when they came out with the cast rack You are correct cheaper prices sell more parts. Currently my cost is well over 50$ on the racks I have made in this first batch so I cannot sell them for that price.
