Another 9 ball game
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Rodd said:
It appears that you can't clear the one with any kind of follow stroke, and any draw draw stroke back down to the two would take a wicked amount of power. Hence, I'm guessing you jacked up the cue, pocketed the one in the corner, and jumped the cue ball so that it went over the three and down table for shape on the two. Then, I hope, you ran out.
It's a good shot. I myself would stroke the 1 into the rail near the 5 making sure not to make the combo and freeze the cueball to the 3. That safety is just too easy to pass up and done right it will have your opponent in a world of trouble. It is really easy to plaster the cueball to the 3 in that position and leave the 1 down on the other end of the table so that you opponent is playing no less then 2 rails for the hit.
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This wimpy 9-Ball player would also take the safety-only I'd aim the 1 towards the 2 and put the cue behind the 7!
I am curious Rod about how you judged the chances of getting down table without the 6 or 9 stopping the cue. And did you go between them or below the 6 to the long rail?
Tooooo good for me
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I am curious Rod about how you judged the chances of getting down table without the 6 or 9 stopping the cue. And did you go between them or below the 6 to the long rail?
Tooooo good for me
!!!You know a safe would have been a good option. I might not be the sharpest tack in the box but when I see a shot I think I can handle, I go. I've just been hit playing safe on a decent shot only to have it turned around. Two rails means little if the guy can play. Any hit and I could be in trouble.
Rod
Rod
Believe me, Rodd, I'd never play that shot, but as you said you went for the offense and not the defense, I managed to work it out. I have little doubt I'd have played a snooker and gotten that five off the rail in the process, a shot already proposed in this thread.
I am the same as PoolGuy.
poolguy123 said:This wimpy 9-Ball player would also take the safety-only I'd aim the 1 towards the 2 and put the cue behind the 7!
I am curious Rod about how you judged the chances of getting down table without the 6 or 9 stopping the cue. And did you go between them or below the 6 to the long rail?
Tooooo good for me
poolguy,
I thought my chances for position was good. By hitting towards the top of the one it straightens out the angle a bit. I planned to go between the 6 and long rail which is what happened. sjm, as far as moving the 5 I never considered that to be a problem. I really dislike rearanging a table with a good run out possibility.
We were playing on a GC with fairly new cloth. Had it been a diamond pro with much tighter pockets, my vote is with you guys, I'd probably play safe. Another factor is I have shot variations of this same shot so it wasn't uncharted territory. Besides, the corner pocket was looking pretty big to me. Hey we all get lucky.
Rod
Rodd said:
I don't see it as a problem either, Rod, but once defense is chosen over offense, you might as well simplify, and a softish shot that send the one to the long rail and then to the five will generally accomplish that objective. As it was considered at length in another thread, I won't belabor the point that the "never rearrange the object balls if there is a runout" rule has numerous exceptions. For example, I'm sure that, even though you could draw past it, you'd bump the five out off the rail in this layout:
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sjm said:
SJM,
That surprises me a little. It's a variation of a shot showed me by my instructor to hop the cue into the pack on those straight pool secondary breaks where you just don't have much angle on the object ball. I bet you've shot that one (of course in this example the 1- ball is a little far from the pocket). My instructor rifles these in, even on that evil, tinypocketed (is that a word?) table. He uses it not infrequently to jump over obstructions in 9-ball if I leave him in a tough position (he doesn't leave himself these situations).
Williebetmore said:
I've executed that kind of shot, but I guess I just don't feel that it's in my high percentage range. If the defense available were minimal, I might shoot the shot anyway. In this case, however, strong defense is available, and, in view of my own tendencies and strengths, I'll bet the rack on the safe, and not on this expert-level shot.
Willie, there are numerous flavors of using a jump to play shape, and some of them don't even involve going over an obstructing ball. Maybe I'll get around to posting a couple of examples at some point.
Your instructor is, to put it simply, awesome. Can you imagine having that kind of ability even for a single day? It boggles the imagination.
sjm said:
SJM,
What is this "defense" you speak of????
P.S. - Against Danny D. I got almost straight in on a ball on the bottom rail, and jumped the cue ball onto the cushion and up table to escape the rail - he loves that shot. Its a fairly high percentage shot when the object ball is within a couple of diamonds of the pocket (I think).