another aiming system thread.......

vapoolplayer

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sorry to beat a dead horse here guys............LOL

i was just wondering what kind of "unusual" aiming systems people on here use. by unusual i mean other than the normal ghost ball, sectional, train tracks, etc, etc. even if its a variation of the above mentioned that you've come up with on your own. the reason i'm asking is that the way i aim, i learned from a local player, but i have never read about it in a book or seen it in a video. after i see the responses i'll explain it, its hard to explain without showing it on a table though. who knows, maybe its being used by alot of players........but i've never seen it publicized.(though that doesn't mean its not)

thanks, and sorry again for bringing up a thread that might start a flame war
 
I look at the pocket and I send the ball there. LOL
I think ALIGNING systems would get more responses.
 
I'm a strong practioner of the Ghost Ball system when I start training. I then rely on instinct after the 1st week.

Upclose shots (Less than 1 inch) I simply find both contact points on object ball and cueball, and make sure (darn sure) that they connect. I'll miss those shots 1 in 20.
 
RichardCranium said:
"THE RESPONSES"..... There you go...now hows bout that explainin... :D :D

alrighty lets see if i can make this as short as possible. you must be able to imagine lines on the table for this one. most people who play pool can do this i'm sure, but if you're one of those people who find that difficult, this isn't for you. also this requires a VERY straight stroke as any glancing off the cue ball will alter the course of the object ball.

first take your cue and look at your ferrule. pretend it is a square. you have five different part on your ferrule you can use to aim with. the two edges, the center line, and the two quarters.

ok, now take and ojbet ball and place it on the table. draw an imaginary line from the center of the intended pocket through the object ball. that is the "contact" point and is the only spot on the object ball that you need worry about. NOTE: make sure you draw the line all the way through the object ball. just like any other way of aiming you are focusing on the part of the object ball farthest away from the target pocket.

now, set up a straight in shot. naturally for this shot all you need to do is line the center of your ferrule to the line you drew through the object ball. this works for shots that are straight in and anything slightly off straight. i.e. very small degree cuts.

ok now set up a medium difficulty cut. i haven't gotten on a table with a protractor but it seems this next one works for 30 to 60 degree cuts. now if you are cutting the ball to the LEFT, all you have to do is line the LEFT quarter of your ferrule up with the line on the object ball. if you are cutting to the RIGHT line the RIGHT quarter of the ferrule up with the line on the object ball. don't ask me why, becuase i don't know right now, but it automatically compensates the cut.

now, set up a maximum difficulty cut 60-90. for cutting to the RIGHT line up the RIGHT edge of the ferrule to your object ball line. for cutting to the LEFT line up the LEFT edge of the ferrule to the object ball line.
agian, it compensates.

now for english

there are only two spots on the ferrule to use for english, the two edges.

NOTE: this is very important. this ONLY works when using NO MORE than ONE tip of sidespin. which is usually plenty to get around a 9 ft table.

this works on any cut angle. depending on how good your eyes are and how straight your stroke is, you may have to adjust a little for very thin cuts using sidespin.

ok, set up any cut.

say you are cutting the ball to the left and you want to use right hand spin.
you would line up your shot with ONE tip of side spin and use the LEFT edge of your ferrule to the object ball to pocket line.

now take the same shot. and you want to use inside english (left hand spin) line up the shot using ONE tip of sidespin. aim the RIGHT edge of your ferrule to the object ball to pocket line.


i know this is imposssible but try this on a table a few times before you start your naysaying. (previous statement only applicable to the few people on here who like to bash everything that isn't the way they use it.......LOL)

i have tried this method using a 13 mm tip and my usual 12.4 mm tip and it works for both. i'm not sure if a higher deflection shaft will make a difference, but i wouldn't think so since its only using no more than a tip of sidespin.

i learned this system from a local player, and my ball making percentage went through the roof. it does take some practice like anything else. it took me a week to get fully used to it, incorporating it into my practice routine which lasts about 5-6 hours a day. after a little bit of practice you'll be able to swing down on the line just like you were before.

is anyone else using this or a variation of this? i've never read about it in any book or seen it on any video. (although i haven't seen or read everything)

ok, i think i covered everything, so let me know if this works for you if you try it or if it seems i explained something incorrectly.

thanks
 
Sometimes I would imagine if the object ball is along a rail. I usually find it a bit easier to make a ball when the ball's on the rail. So I would put an imaginary rail beside the object ball and shoot the shot like its along a rail. Its almost like the ghost ball aiming method. I find this method work better for shots that are half a table length or longer.
 
OK, I’ll give you your laugh today. Here is something I used for a short period of time, a long time ago. On the search for that special something I came up with this. How to explain it, I don’t know. If you know what the word ‘horizon’ means, you might understand what I’m saying. I tried to make a picture of it. That didn’t work to well either, but I’ll post it anyway.

I aimed to put the cue ball, at impact with the object ball, so that a line connecting the horizons, points to the pocket.

There, do I win the prize for strange and dumb? LOL
 

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vapoolplayer said:
alrighty lets see if i can make this as short as possible. you must be able to imagine lines on the table for this one. most people who play pool can do this i'm sure, but if you're one of those people who find that difficult, this isn't for you. also this requires a VERY straight stroke as any glancing off the cue ball will alter the course of the object ball.

first take your cue and look at your ferrule. pretend it is a square. you have five different part on your ferrule you can use to aim with. the two edges, the center line, and the two quarters.

ok, now take and ojbet ball and place it on the table. draw an imaginary line from the center of the intended pocket through the object ball. that is the "contact" point and is the only spot on the object ball that you need worry about. NOTE: make sure you draw the line all the way through the object ball. just like any other way of aiming you are focusing on the part of the object ball farthest away from the target pocket.

now, set up a straight in shot. naturally for this shot all you need to do is line the center of your ferrule to the line you drew through the object ball. this works for shots that are straight in and anything slightly off straight. i.e. very small degree cuts.

ok now set up a medium difficulty cut. i haven't gotten on a table with a protractor but it seems this next one works for 30 to 60 degree cuts. now if you are cutting the ball to the LEFT, all you have to do is line the LEFT quarter of your ferrule up with the line on the object ball. if you are cutting to the RIGHT line the RIGHT quarter of the ferrule up with the line on the object ball. don't ask me why, becuase i don't know right now, but it automatically compensates the cut.

now, set up a maximum difficulty cut 60-90. for cutting to the RIGHT line up the RIGHT edge of the ferrule to your object ball line. for cutting to the LEFT line up the LEFT edge of the ferrule to the object ball line.
agian, it compensates.

now for english

there are only two spots on the ferrule to use for english, the two edges.

NOTE: this is very important. this ONLY works when using NO MORE than ONE tip of sidespin. which is usually plenty to get around a 9 ft table.

this works on any cut angle. depending on how good your eyes are and how straight your stroke is, you may have to adjust a little for very thin cuts using sidespin.

ok, set up any cut.

say you are cutting the ball to the left and you want to use right hand spin.
you would line up your shot with ONE tip of side spin and use the LEFT edge of your ferrule to the object ball to pocket line.

now take the same shot. and you want to use inside english (left hand spin) line up the shot using ONE tip of sidespin. aim the RIGHT edge of your ferrule to the object ball to pocket line.


i know this is imposssible but try this on a table a few times before you start your naysaying. (previous statement only applicable to the few people on here who like to bash everything that isn't the way they use it.......LOL)

i have tried this method using a 13 mm tip and my usual 12.4 mm tip and it works for both. i'm not sure if a higher deflection shaft will make a difference, but i wouldn't think so since its only using no more than a tip of sidespin.

i learned this system from a local player, and my ball making percentage went through the roof. it does take some practice like anything else. it took me a week to get fully used to it, incorporating it into my practice routine which lasts about 5-6 hours a day. after a little bit of practice you'll be able to swing down on the line just like you were before.

is anyone else using this or a variation of this? i've never read about it in any book or seen it on any video. (although i haven't seen or read everything)

ok, i think i covered everything, so let me know if this works for you if you try it or if it seems i explained something incorrectly.

thanks
This was actually the subject of a video several years ago. I'm not positive of the name, but I believe that it might have been the Deadstroke Tape. Regardless, I learned it from a very good player in Richmond, VA who still uses the system. I remember it as working, but I never used it enough to incorporate it in my game. I'm confused enough. I aim almost entirely by instinct.
Interesting post!
 
Fellow Posters: New book on the market. "Aiming on the cutting Edge". Author is Todd Leveck. If you can wade through the first half of the book, Todd explores Several Aiming Systems avaiable to us in Chapter 14.....randyg
 
randyg said:
Fellow Posters: New book on the market. "Aiming on the cutting Edge". Author is Todd Leveck. If you can wade through the first half of the book, Todd explores Several Aiming Systems avaiable to us in Chapter 14.....randyg


i have the book, its a very good read. i'd recommend it to anyone who wants to add another great addition to their pocket billiard library
 
CaptainJR said:
OK, I’ll give you your laugh today. Here is something I used for a short period of time, a long time ago. On the search for that special something I came up with this. How to explain it, I don’t know. If you know what the word ‘horizon’ means, you might understand what I’m saying. I tried to make a picture of it. That didn’t work to well either, but I’ll post it anyway.

I aimed to put the cue ball, at impact with the object ball, so that a line connecting the horizons, points to the pocket.

There, do I win the prize for strange and dumb? LOL


well cap'n that one's got me scratching my head. so you're ahead so far in the weird and unusual aiming race..........LOL
 
aiming

I just line everything up as a straihgt hit and let my mind determine the cut angle on the last stroke and hit the ball in the pocket.....this has always worked very accurately over my years of playing......but, I can't really explain the mechanics involved...it just works!
 
vapoolplayer said:
i have the book, its a very good read. i'd recommend it to anyone who wants to add another great addition to their pocket billiard library
Can you give a summary of the systems covered?
 
Bob Jewett said:
Can you give a summary of the systems covered?


Ghost Ball
Railroad
Tunnel or Tube
Chain Ball
Square Ball
Arrow
Line
Light Reflection
Ball Reflection
Ball Shadow
Rail Shadow
Mirror Center
Invisible Spot
Sectional
Geometric
Equal & Opposite
Double The Distance
Isosceles
Instinctive

Don't say I've never been helpful to you now.
 
drivermaker said:
Ghost Ball
Railroad
Tunnel or Tube
Chain Ball
Square Ball
Arrow
Line
Light Reflection
Ball Reflection
Ball Shadow
Rail Shadow
Mirror Center
Invisible Spot
Sectional
Geometric
Equal & Opposite
Double The Distance
Isosceles
Instinctive

Don't say I've never been helpful to you now.

since i'm sure you're on several ignore lists, here it is for everyone to see......................thats assuming that i'm not on everyone's ignore list too.............LOL
 
vapoolplayer said:
since i'm sure you're on several ignore lists, here it is for everyone to see......................thats assuming that i'm not on everyone's ignore list too.............LOL
I have no idea what "square ball" or "chain ball" means in this context. Could you flesh out the definitions enough to be understandable? Thanks.
 
Bob Jewett said:
I have no idea what "square ball" or "chain ball" means in this context. Could you flesh out the definitions enough to be understandable? Thanks.


Could you put your fleshy hand in your pocket to pull out the money and buy the book? Quit being such a cheap little prick...if you want information, pay for it. Leveck did write a book to put food on the table, not have everything doled out to be stolen and distributed for free. You want people to pay when they come to the sfbilliardacademy, don't you? We all paid...
BTW, Vapoolplayer, do the same with this one. :D
 
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drivermaker said:
Could you put your fleshy hand in your pocket to pull out the money and buy the book? Quit being such a cheap little prick...if you want information, pay for it. Leveck did write a book to put food on the table, not have everything doled out to be stolen and distributed for free. You want people to pay when they come to the sfbilliardacademy, don't you? We all paid...
BTW, Vapoolplayer, do the same with this one. :D


i tried to edit the above quote content......but it just didn't sound the same afterwards, and my mother always told me to respect my elders (QUOTE: BTW, Vapoolplayer, do the same with this one.) so i left it alone........LOL

on another note:

square ball = imagining the balls are square, making it easier to use the sides of the balls

chain ball = basically just imagining the path of the cue ball and object ball in a "chain of balls" each one overlapping the other. the book has very good illustrations. its kinda hard to get some of the points across without actually having the book in front of you.

and for anyone using sectional aiming (i.e. 3/4 ball hit = 48 degrees etc, etc) mr. leveck's book has a VERY good method for calculating almost an exact angle of any shot. to me, just lthat ittle tid bit of info was worth the 30 or so bucks the book cost.

thanks
 
CaptainJR said:
I'm kind of insulted that DM didn't include my 'Horizon Line' system in his list. :D

Not LOL


I wouldn't be surprised that Leveck is scurrying around right now to add it into an addendum which will be sent to all past purchasers or to be included in Aiming On The Cutting Edge II. :D
 
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