Another chicken shit “foul”

Monti said:
Ok so I couldn’t sleep! Found the semi final with the player that called this “foul”. Looks like he was pattern racking, his opponent calls him up on it at 17 minutes approx in video. Photo of his 3 successive racks show how he made sure 7 and 8 then 4 and 6 on same row. With 235 at back. He clearly chooses which balls to take .
I think it shows what type of person he is 🤔
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good work lol what a dbag
 
everyone has their own idea of what is cheating or stretching the rules. get mad if you like but you do things that arent legal or correct in other aspects of life and justify it. we all do to some extent.

so in pool its up to you to call what you believe is an infraction of the rules. and the ref. can decide upon it.
without the ref. there then its between players themselves to work it out.
 
Yep, but it was much better when I heard it coming outt his mouth, thx for the link TKO/from FLA ;) (y)
 
maha said:
so in pool its up to you to call what you believe is an infraction of the rules.
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That is a good point. If everyone is stretching the rules, like with pattern racking, then you may need to do the same. If I follow a rule that nobody else does, I better call them on it or I am giving up an edge. I still wouldn't call a foul for putting balls on the table unless they touched the cue ball. Then again, some quick thinking could have saved me a couple of scratches after sinking the 8.
 
In most bar tournaments it is just considered common courtesy to roll the balls in pockets and at the head of the table down to the racker. Often the stick is laid on the table while this is done. Worked well at a friends bar for weeks or months. However, eventually a few dipshits realized that strategically catching a ball or laying a stick on the table could prevent scratches. Huge uproar!

A rule was quickly passed that catching a moving ball or laying a stick on the table was a foul, a major foul, loss of game. Seems like a harsh punishment for a minor infraction when somebody does one of these things and it doesn't affect the outcome of the game. However, that was the very argument of the cheaters, the ball wasn't going to scratch anyway.

Unless the tournaments became a source of contention that cost business instead of building it, my friend had to put a black and white rule in place. Black and white rules are fair to all. Gray rules cause nothing but problems. "You punished me but not him."

I hate silly rules. I hate even more silly actions that caused the silly rules to being with. Why are short people punished by the one foot on the floor rule? Those that haven't suffered through cushions broken loose and expensive repairs for the table owner don't understand. Those who are forced to play on the damaged table understand fully.

Hu
 
zencues.com said:
I agree... a warning is the correct action (in both cases). Players should know the rules, but the rules
should include a warning first for unintentional acts.
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That's just not a referees job.
There should be enough warning when the players acquaint themselves with the rules of the tournaments.
I don't see referees give warnings before a foul in any sport. None whatsoever.
However knowing the rules of each tournament is given, it's the player's responsibility.
 
9Ballr said:
That's just not a referees job.
There should be enough warning when the players acquaint themselves with the rules of the tournaments.
I don't see referees give warnings before a foul in any sport. None whatsoever.
However knowing the rules of each tournament is given, it's the player's responsibility.
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Not before a foul but one to repeated warnings grace are given in combative sports and certainly punitive legal situations.
 
Texas Carom Club said:
and that rule is retarded and made by someone with no common sense
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As with most topics of discussion on here, there are strong opinions both ways. I am of the opinion that the referees (or opponents in a non-refereed match) should exercise some degree of common sense judgment in various situations, which in this case would certainly not have risen to the level of a foul being called.

The problem certainly exists in a non-refereed match if the tournament director did not witness the incident, and then must make a decision based on the two player’s opinions of what happened, which may likely conflict. In that case the TD may feel the need to enforce the rule strictly as it’s stated in the rules, even if he’d prefer not having to get involved, especially in cases where the infraction clearly did not effect the outcome of the game.
 
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If the referee is correct, then I think he has the right to have the last say. But I believe I would ask him to ignore that foul. I wouldn't want to win a game that way.
 
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