Another CTE question

Ok, then, where is initial eye placement? Stan only says that it is not on CTE, or CTEL A/B/C...

Once you have the CTEL A/B/C set, that is your eye placement. Look at CCB. That is the center of the fixed cueball. Forget CTEL A/B/C, you are done with them. You are now ready to sweep.
 
... go straight into the cue ball...

I don't know what that means.

I am standing behind the cue ball, with my head somewhere between the CTE, and the Edge to A/B/C lines... doesn't it matter where my head is, exactly?
 
I have watched the entire first DVD, and I am beginning DVD #2, and I will watch it in its entirety.

I will then want to go to the table and start shooting shots. I have a problem, however, that I don't think DVD #2 is going to answer for me.

I see the CTE and Edge to A,B, or C lines. I understand Stan when he says, "I'm not behind either line when I go down on the shot." (I paraphrase).

What I haven't heard, as far as I am able to tell, is this question:

Where do I lay my cue, prior to making the pivot?
Thank you.

Your visuals establish a fixed CB giving you a left CB edge and a right CB edge.
Those 2 edges allow you to determine a CCB vertical axis, more specifically the CB core.
The manual pivot is based on CCB as described above. So, visually you must move STRAIGHT in for a left or right 1/2 tip pivot based on a specific bridge distance.

For PRO ONE, see your visuals and you will naturally sweep left or right to CCB.

Also, this is on DVD2.

Stan Shuffett
 
Once you have the CTEL A/B/C set, that is your eye placement. Look at CCB. That is the center of the fixed cueball. Forget CTEL A/B/C, you are done with them. You are now ready to sweep.

I'm not going to be doing the 'sweep' initially, because I don't understand what it could possibly mean. I need to start out with a manual pivot.

How do I know where to lay my cue stick?
 
Nope, once you establish the visuals you are done. Your next target is centre cue ball. That should be your focus.

I don't know what that means.

I am standing behind the cue ball, with my head somewhere between the CTE, and the Edge to A/B/C lines... doesn't it matter where my head is, exactly?
 
Your visuals establish a fixed CB giving you a left CB edge and a right CB edge.
Those 2 edges allow you to determine a CCB vertical axis, more specifically the CB core.
The manual pivot is based on CCB as described above. So, visually you must move STRAIGHT in for a left or right 1/2 tip pivot based on a specific bridge distance.

For PRO ONE, see your visuals and you will naturally sweep left or right to CCB.

Also, this is on DVD2.

Stan Shuffett

Are you saying that my vision center should be placed exactly between the CTE and Edge to A/B/C lines?
 
I'm not going to be doing the 'sweep' initially, because I don't understand what it could possibly mean. I need to start out with a manual pivot.

How do I know where to lay my cue stick?

ok manaul pivot:

a) find CTEL A/B/C. Freeze.
b) look at center of fixed CB.
c) move straight in, do not lose vertical axis
d) place tip 1/2 left or right.
e) pivot to center CB

you now have your cue on the shot line. directly through the core of CCB.
 
No I did not say Exactly. I do not know where my head/eyes will be until I have my perception of the 2 lines.
Stan Shuffett

Ok. I'll probably have to let this be until I have finished my DVD watching, and get to the table.

I was asking about it now, because I didn't have a clear picture of what line you were saying to drop on after perceiving the 2 lines. I think that I have something to go on now, but there's no point in speculating further until I try it at the table.

Thank you.

- s.west
 
I think that I have something to go on now, but there's no point in speculating further until I try it at the table.

Thank you.

- s.west

If more people had that attitude when learning Pro One, there'd be a lot less arguing.

Best of luck
 
Who is that in your avatar? I can't get beyond thinking that it's a young Karen Corr...
 
ok manaul pivot:

a) find CTEL A/B/C. Freeze.
b) look at center of fixed CB.
c) move straight in, do not lose vertical axis
d) place tip 1/2 left or right.
e) pivot to center CB

you now have your cue on the shot line. directly through the core of CCB.

I forgot to respond to this. It is very helpful.

Thank you.

- s.west
 
Ok, then, where is initial eye placement? Stan only says that it is not on CTE, or CTEL A/B/C...

Here is my tip for you.. I did this prior to watching both DVD's

Disregard the pockets first...

Example:
Remember your setup 1 diagram? where the cue ball is on the footspot and the three ball is at the center of the table?

tip:
Align yourself behind the CUE BALL and establish a virtual line between CUE BALL CENTER and OBJECT BALL CENTER...


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and ALSO i advise you to watch Stan's support video on YouTube, I've learned the basic concept of Pro one prior to having the DVDs.

Perceptions
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAKAP8iR3Lw
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Psy5hOJT0
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFOHUceNpA

Lesson in CTE Pro One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwHrdp6Tzw

Important Visual Alignment Considerations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOnLiDh-dg

and finally

Visual Sweep Support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwI_62Npos
 
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Here is my tip for you.. I did this prior to watching both DVD's

Disregard the pockets first...

Example:
Remember your setup 1 diagram? where the cue ball is on the footspot and the three ball is at the center of the table?

tip:
Align yourself behind the CUE BALL and establish a virtual line between CUE BALL CENTER and OBJECT BALL CENTER...


==============================================================================================

and ALSO i advise you to watch Stan's support video on YouTube, I've learned the basic concept of Pro one prior to having the DVDs.

Perceptions
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAKAP8iR3Lw
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Psy5hOJT0
Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFOHUceNpA

Lesson in CTE Pro One http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwHrdp6Tzw

Important Visual Alignment Considerations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOnLiDh-dg

and finally

Visual Sweep Support http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwI_62Npos

I've stated this numerous times on here. When learning the system, disregard whatever you know about aiming, don't try and make the balls. Instead, follow the steps verbatim and just observe what happens. It's through the observing that it finally clicks.
 
I've stated this numerous times on here. When learning the system, disregard whatever you know about aiming, don't try and make the balls. Instead, follow the steps verbatim and just observe what happens. It's through the observing that it finally clicks.

He was asking for the initial eye placement....

If i were teaching him about aiming the way I know prior to Pro One.. i would definitely say "align your body to the angle of the cut".. that's it and the rest is experience to pocket that ball..

Please understand that I had to learn the basics of Pro One prior to DVDs and only relied on the Perception support video of Stan on youtube...

when he said that we should not be behind either line.. that's quite a challenge for a beginner in CTE pro one...

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Initial eye placement is required, however yo do it.. if a person is proficient in Pro-One his initial eye placement is of course almost identical to where his body is in offset...

Initial eye placement can be done by establishing either CTE line or Aim Line.. then do a little movement so that you wont be behind either lines
 
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Actually Neil...

It's easy to say that "you do not stand behind either line" than actually doing it in reality, especially for a Pro One Beginner.

I managed to perfect this "not behind either line" within 4 days with each night having a 3 hours on the table, prior to the DVDs. Now maybe the factor for me learning that quickly is because of my experience and knowledge in aiming...

Actually 4 years ago I don't know any aiming system, I just look and shoot... I only learned the jargons through the internet.

Again Learning Pro One takes the following into account:

Fundamentals and Experience

if a player lacks fundamentals, CTE Pro One can still be learned and perfected but it will take longer due to the fact that Pro One teaches a professional approach in pocketing balls
 
He was asking for the initial eye placement....

If i were teaching him about aiming the way I know prior to Pro One.. i would definitely say "align your body to the angle of the cut".. that's it and the rest is experience to pocket that ball..

Please understand that I had to learn the basics of Pro One prior to DVDs and only relied on the Perception support video of Stan on youtube...

when he said that we should not be behind either line.. that's quite a challenge for a beginner in CTE pro one...

----

Initial eye placement is required, however yo do it.. if a person is proficient in Pro-One his initial eye placement is of course almost identical to where his body is in offset...

Initial eye placement can be done by establishing either CTE line or Aim Line.. then do a little movement so that you wont be behind either lines

Exactly! That is why it so important to "empty your cup", and just follow the directions and observe.
 
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