Another Gold Crown Identy.....Please! (lots of pics)

[poolhalljnkie]

First, here's the story.....I got this table on ebay for $102.50. (No, that is not a misprint) But I had to drive to NE South Carolina from Dallas, TX to pick it up. I left at 2a.m. Saturday Morning straight there, tear it down, load it up and drove straight back. I got back about 2:30p.m. today (Sunday)...Worth it if you ask me!!

2 Pics of it set up in Pool Time in Hartsville, SC. They purchased it 11 yrs ago from Bee's Knees Pool room in (I believe) Mt. Pleasant, SC.

I tried to get the stain off the sticker on the base & got everything I needed except the SERIES, appears the base was white

Dates on all the pockets castings & leg levelers range between April-August 1963

"Figure 8" shaped anchor plate & original Monarch rubbers

Name plate is metal

Has the leg levelers

Big Counter

Union mark on base & slate backers

 

[PoolTable911]

It is a Gold Crown I. Nice e-bay buy.:thumbup:

 

[poolhalljnkie]

Pictures of the slate showing the pins, back, sloped pockets, thickness, & surface....and can anyone tell me if this is slate, brunstone, or blustone by these pics?? Thanks

And when they were loading them they slid the slates on top of each other without removing the staples.....HOW CAN THIS BE FIXED?! :frown

 

[poolhalljnkie]

It is a Gold Crown I. Nice e-bay buy.:thumbup:

Wow, got an answer even before I finished putting the slate pictures up.....Thanks PoolTable


And to you and any other mechanics that want to imput a very important question......

Approx (if possible by pics, can take more if necessary) how much to set up...Tourney Blue Simonis 860, 4.5 pockets, new screw in pockets (ones that came with it in very bad condition), & whatever else you think it might need??

I plan on Sanding, finishing, , filling & primering all wood for that Grand Piano Deep Wonderful Black, & all metal chrome plated

 

[manwon]

No it is a Gold Crown II, the trim piece that go's around the edge of the table on Gold Crown I was a Brass color or maybe it was Brass.

However, outside of that there really is little difference between a I and II, the slates for either table are inter changeable along with the tables frames and rail. In fact the slate is also exactly the same for the Anniversary Tables down to the bolt holes drilled in the slate.

Looks like you got a great deal.

JIMO

 

[poolhalljnkie]

No it is a Gold Crown II, the trim piece that go's around the edge of the table on Gold Crown I was a Brass color or maybe it was Brass.

No they are not Brass color, they are aluminum/silver in color....thanks manwon. I believe I got a good deal even tho it was the longest 2 days ever in my life 32 hours in a truck by myself :boring2:

 

[chevybob20]

Looks like Pennsylvania slate. If you run your hand across the grain of the slate, it will feel slightly raised. This grain and the scratches can be honed out by a qualified mechanic. It is well worth the effort.

 

[retro65]

Gold crown id

The gold crown I didn't have adjustable feet (had to put shims under feet) the II had adjustable feet were you twist them up and down has threaded insert inside of hole bottom of leg - brunstone didn't come out till the 70's and it's 1" and 1/4 thick. I know this because my family has a retail store and we been a Brunswick dearler since day 1 (1963) now saying all that someone could have put in threaded inserts we do it makes it a lot easier to level. I am on vacation right on and will look at some catalogs when I get back to the store I believe we still have a 1963 catalog. Good luck with the restore no matter what model it is it will still play great. PS you can fill in any groves, small missing pcs with bondo it sets hard and you can sand it smooth. Good luck

 

[realkingcobra]

ummm, no..it's a GC1, figure 8 nut plates and all. Adjustable feet came out on the GC1's at a later date than when they were first sold with non-adjustable feet. Yes, it's brunstone, 1 1/16"ths thick. Brunswick didn't switch back to slate until later in the 70's, started using the Brunstone right after WWll, because they had shut down their Vermont slate mines during the war. NO Gold Crown ever came with 1 1/2" thick slate, not factory anyway. And if you take a look at the pocket castings, they're the thick cast alumimum castings, also early GC1's.

Glen

 

[OTLB]

ummm, no..it's a GC1, figure 8 nut plates and all. Adjustable feet came out on the GC1's at a later date than when they were first sold with non-adjustable feet. Yes, it's brunstone, 1 1/16"ths thick. Brunswick didn't switch back to slate until later in the 70's, started using the Brunstone right after WWll, because they had shut down their Vermont slate mines during the war. NO Gold Crown ever came with 1 1/2" thick slate, not factory anyway. And if you take a look at the pocket castings, they're the thick cast alumimum castings, also early GC1's.

Glen

6x12 GC's came with 1.5 slate but I know you meant to say NO GC pool table ever did :thumbup:

 

[Oregonmeds]

Good buy op, I watched that table auction and couldn't believe it sold for that.

I got a similar deal on the same model table which is model number AR6100 on that tag you couldn't read, but mine was in way worse shape than yours if you can imagine that. Paid $150 for mine, a 64 gold crown with 2 broken corners on the slate and most of the slate alignment pins bent and broken out. Nasty paint, bad cloth, all the metal scratched to hell...

Spent day after day sanding and polishing and fixing one piece after another. Didn't have the metal chromed, instead sanded off the topcoat of metal and pant and all the deep scratches and then polished all the bare aluminum. Stripped, sanded, and stained all the rest of the table too. Now It's up and playable, and am just down to the last few bits to clearcoat and then putting on new cloth.

It's an adventure, but these tables are worth the time I think, they'll outlast your lifetime if you fix it up.

I did all my bondo work to fix the slate and level it and stuff too, but the more of all this you can farm out the better off you'll be. I've spent the last couple months just working on the thing and I would have loved the luxury to just pay someone and have it done months ago.

Lucky deal, even the parts are worth more than that. I'm curious to see how much it costs you for chroming all the metal. If that turns out too expensive there's always powdercoating, if you're not into polishing and sanding it all yourself which I don't advise because it's a real time consuming b1tch...

Here are some example pics of what I managed to get it to look like so far... Any questions just ask.

 

[realkingcobra]

6x12 GC's came with 1.5 slate but I know you meant to say NO GC pool table ever did :thumbup:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, but in a perfect world, there wouldn't be any 6'x 12's...:thumbup::rotflmao1:

 

[goldcrown4]

... Yes, it's brunstone, 1 1/16"ths thick. Brunswick didn't switch back to slate until later in the 70's, started using the Brunstone right after WWll, because they had shut down their Vermont slate mines during the war.... Glen

I guess this means my late 40's or very early 50's Anniversary has Brunstone too?