another off the rack thread

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driven

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When I was younger I would play the breakshot off the rack if the ball was too high, basically firing it into the side of the rack hoping it would find the pocket. If this ever happened to work it was complete luck. This was kind of my thinking at the time of my poorly worded post in Blackjacks otr thread.
Today over at the 3 mans house 3's breakshot is about 1 ball below the rack and a couple 2-3 inches to the side. The cue ball is close by. Even before I rack the balls he calls a carom off the rack. He takes a full minute looking at it and shoots the cueball off the end ball and makes the shot cleanly. very nice.
There was no luck involved here. only knowledge and skill allowed him to pocket this ball. Clearly there is an option here I haven't considered
steven
 
there may be other factors involved when shooting those break shots, like; how likely is it that your opponent will run out if you miss? how important is the game? & how comfortable are you with that particular shot on that specific table?

didn't we recently see lipsky do a similar shot in a tourney video?
 
I haven't seen that video. If you know where it is i would like to see it.
all you say is true, confidence might be the largest factor, missing not an option. When 3 calls a shot like this, or a dead ball out of the stack, 99% of the work has been done before the stroke. I know the ball is in before he hits it. and I knew I would be writing about this shot before he hit it.
 
driven: i just looked through my vids and i have it. you can google it with this info. it says that it's from the:

"SBE 2010-14.1 Challenge"
"Steve Lipsky~Perfect 85"

Steve makes a ballsy carom off the bottom of a lightly disturbed rack into the corner pocket.
 
I am curious about this shot as well hehe, since I don't remember making it :). Sausage, where in the video did this occur?

Thanks,
Steve
 
Steve Lipsky said:
I am curious about this shot as well hehe, since I don't remember making it :). Sausage, where in the video did this occur?

Thanks,
Steve
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steve: it occurred at the beginning of the game after your opponent left you the 1ball? in the corner. i have a mind like a vault when it comes to pool but collage trig is totally gone. i found it here: http://vimeo.com/10393269 nice shot BTW that allowed you to put your opponent 85 balls in the hole.
 
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sausage said:
steve: it occurred at the beginning of the game after your opponent left you the 1ball? in the corner. i have a mind like a vault when it comes to pool but collage trig is totally gone. i found it here: http://vimeo.com/10393269 nice shot BTW that allowed you to put your opponent 85 balls in the hole.
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Hi Sausage. I think you might mean my 2nd shot, but this is just a really thin cut, not a carom. :o

- Steve
 
I just noticed this thread. Thanks Driven for the complements. This shot I made wasn't really that tough though. The billiard was a little off when I called it, and Steve said he felt it was going low to the bottom rail, and I said, yeah, but I'm gonna hit this corner ball with a nice pop and a ton of inside english. It happened to split the pocket. As we all know none of that has to happpen. :)

Here is the shot, I mean the diagram will at least give you the idea of how it was. It needed inside english on the table.The same shot could have been made with a slightly thinner hit on the corner ball but I didn't want to glance off the rack, I wanted to really smack it and have the CB come off the carom slow and flat so as not to have a runaway CB. I didn't spend a lot of time making the diagram ... really not that hard a shot if you see it. The shot was actually spinning the OB into the pocket while holding the CB that made the rack open so well. I'm perfectly capable of missing this same shot by a diamond the next time it comes up. :)

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Steve Lipsky said:
Hi Sausage. I think you might mean my 2nd shot, but this is just a really thin cut, not a carom. :o

- Steve
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yeah, your second shot..... at normal speed it looked like a carom but when slowed down, yes, it's clearly a thin cut. after viewing in slow motion however i was surprised that the cue almost scratched. you can watch it curve as it veers away from the side pocket and hugs the rail to the corner then dances in the jaws before popping out. the balls must have been highly polished.
 
Yes the balls were polished, using the Diamond Ball polisher. and the Milakin Cloth was barely 2 days old !!!
 
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