dquarasr
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Each rack is a reset. Shoot the break ball, then if you make it, you call the next two balls.
Another one of those posts that make you cringe but here goes: idea for game variation
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So they called the break ball and the next off the stack?
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Hard to find something new in this old world. I heard tell that Artie Bodendorfer delighted in getting people into games having to call one or even two balls ahead decades ago.
Hu
Gotta admit you have a point! One of the great things about pool, we never master it, or at most for a fleeting moment. We can play seemingly brilliantly one day and come back the next day and play like we have never seen a pool cue before. Never mastering pool is one of the major appeals. We don't even master other players other than for the moment. Next time you meet it might be their night to shine!
Hu
The value in restrictive rulesets is the opportunity for evolution. It can narrow the focus on details that would otherwise atrophy. It's not about mastering the games so much as liberating your mind to navigate new thought structures. The added headroom alone can justify the time taken away from practicing your break 
9-ball is all about making the 9-ball….thinking nine shots ahead is what it’s all about.
I'm trying to figure out how to encourage people to make the plan before they ever bend over, then execute. One of the hardest things in any form of physical competition is to get that chattering verbal brain to shut up!
If the entire inning is nine balls we need a plan to make nine balls before we shoot at the first one. The verbal mind can have it's turn if we blow the pattern, we will have to stop and rebuild it. However, adding another ball after you shoot one for that rolling three ball plan is requiring an interruption after every shot. I just pocketed a ball and put the cue ball where I want it. I don't need a loudmouth between my ears interrupting my run. That is even worse than having an external coach!
I had a friend that liked to coach after he had a beer or three. I should have told him to shut up, instead I just nodded my head and agreed and kept running my pattern. A girl watching noticed I wasn't following the coach's advice which was always to shoot the easiest shot without regard as to how it would affect the rest of the pattern. She said, "You aren't following a bit of his advice!" I held up one finger, "Ah, now you get it." His name was Hugh too so I had two Hu's rattling around between my ears when I was trying to shoot!
A simple bit of advice that you can work on anywhere, including while on the company clock, is just to train the conscious verbal mind to shut the hell up! When you can shut it down for five or ten minutes you are in great shape to run a table, or sit through another meeting in the conference room where they are going to tell you what to do. That thing you knocked out last week!
Aside from anything else, a truly quiet mind is knocking on one of the doors to the third level zone where you can perform on the ragged edge of maximum ability.
Hu
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dquarasr
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So you’re saying that Efren ppaying 3C was a bad idea towards his uncanny vision of CB paths in 9-ball or 1P. Or that 14.1 won’t help 8-ball pattern play or fine CB positioning. Or 1P won’t help learning strategy or banking.
Much like playing various games can increase skills for ALL games, alternate rules for existing games definitely can accelerate acquiring skills spanning many games we already play, no?
RT Ford
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Too many variables.
Last time that a so-called 'new game' had any traction at all was that lame made-4-tv 7ball crap. The games we play now have stood the test of time and nothing 'new' i've seen has been anything more than a practice routine. CJ's "Shoot or Dare" looks somewhat interesting but that's the only one i've seen that comes close to having a chance at becoming 'slightly' mainstream.
Not sure how you got your response out of what I said. I play a lot of games….what I learn from one enhances the others.
I don’t need a bunch of Mickey Mouse new rules to learn something….if I have trouble in an area, I shoot it til I own it.
Yes. It's often not hard to guess the next ball. One of the two corner balls or one of the two head balls in the 14-ball rack. In our form of the game you didn't need to call the pocket. I have a friend who asked me to make sure certain balls were tight in the rack because he planned to play a particular ball into the side pocket for his next shot. Some people plan that sort of thing. I'm pretty sure Eufemia did.
Like Bob Jewett said, we played it years ago.
I did forget one and that's 'Saratoga Rules' 8b.
You have to run your suite(six each not seven) in rotation. Only played it a couple times and on a bb its pretty tuff. Rarely see it played other than at the big Saratoga,Wyo event. https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/game/saratoga?
DaWizard
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I just checked Shoot or Dare and it's relatively new! I expected it to be much older, for some reason.
My thoughts:
+ the initial push out gives every player a chance each rack
- I don't really get why a ball must touch the pocket zone to be legal. Either way: it can lead to discussion.
In the end it seems like a simple version of 9-ball, with a push out after the break. So i'm sceptical that this will be very big. I do appreciate the creativity.
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Promoting billiards to new customers could be worth trying.
Pool was once favored by West Point and the White House.
If a sitting DC politician organized a pool league would it be worth talking about?
Pool events are in locations of interest to current events. Even major networks might have correspondence in those areas.
The story of pool players in Europe. Can ESPN get that on ABC?
Pool was once favored by West Point and the White House.
If a sitting DC politician organized a pool league would it be worth talking about?
Pool events are in locations of interest to current events. Even major networks might have correspondence in those areas.
The story of pool players in Europe. Can ESPN get that on ABC?