Another space question!! (sorry)

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Chris O

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So like all the stories go.. I just bought a house.. LOL with a post!!

Just looking for some input on how to deal with it, room is about 20x20 with a post and a small wall beside the fridge aka new bar area..

I tried my best to represent the floor plan.

I have an 8 foot valley, and have a great deal on a 9 foot black crown by canada billiards.

Wondering if I was to get a 9 footer, if I should just deal with the post, and I am hoping someone can shed some light on how often it will come into play.. Thanks guys.
 

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I guess centered I would have 51 inches on either side of the playing surface... or do I offset and take less on the post side?
 
There are plenty of templates out there telling you how much space you need for what size table.

If it does not fit into those, which I am assuming is the case, then nobody here can possibly tell you whether or not you will find it acceptable.

You are here searching for someone to help "convince" you to do what it is you already want to do and know you shouldn't.

Just because you can get a deal on something does not mean you should get it. 51" around the table is not enough. Accept that fact or come to terms internally that you will be making sacrifices for it.
 
Get that counter out of there. Have a beam put in to replace the pole....8 k later you'd wish you got another house!
 
Skippy27 said:
There are plenty of templates out there telling you how much space you need for what size table. ...
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I think nearly all of those are designed to sell larger tables and not make the customer happy after the sale. Simple rule: a full cue length from the outside of the rail all around the table will leave you only slightly crowded.
 
While the post is more of an annoyance than a wall when it is closer to the table, it will only affect a few shots, a wall will affect many more. Push the table in the direction of the pole, a bit.

Thank you kindly.
 
Whatever you decide, consider that you can minimize the post interference by making the head of the table near the post. In other words, you'll be shooting more balls near the foot end of the table (esp if you play 14.1 or 1 pocket) so you should orient the table accordingly.
 
I'd poke around that false ceiling and find out WHY that post is there. That is an odd location for structural support, from an engineering standpoint.
 
Skippy27 said:
There are plenty of templates out there telling you how much space you need for what size table.

If it does not fit into those, which I am assuming is the case, then nobody here can possibly tell you whether or not you will find it acceptable.

You are here searching for someone to help "convince" you to do what it is you already want to do and know you shouldn't.

Just because you can get a deal on something does not mean you should get it. 51" around the table is not enough. Accept that fact or come to terms internally that you will be making sacrifices for it.
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Thanks for the "hard talk" I guess what I am looking for is some input from people who play with or have "come to terms internally" with there setups and some real world playable info.

Obviously you do not know my affordability nor do I know yours, I would have bought another house, if I COULD have.. Thanks for your help!
 
For a 9ft table, it's good to have 20ft x 15ft.
You have plenty of length but the 12ft width would be a killer. That post would get in the way of some shots for sure.
Stick with the 8ft table, you will be happier.
 
If it were up to me I would whatever it took to keep the pole. Without the pole there aint no pole dancing!!!!!:confused:
 
Chris O said:
Table edge as the edge of the physical table
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I have a situation almost identical to yours albeit with a 7' table.

Your 5' clearances shown on the diagram should be fine since you probably have 6" rails, giving you 66" for for a 58" cue and a backstroke of 8". Since these are rail/close to rail shots it's sufficient.

You need similar clearance on the sides and must accept the interference of the post. I have the end of a wall at almost the same spot and can play all night and usually never have a problem. I keep a 48" cue for the rare times it does cause a problem.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Simple rule: a full cue length from the outside of the rail all around the table will leave you only slightly crowded.
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I followed that rule when I put my table in. I had the stick in hand measuring each end before setting it in final position. However, on balls that are on the rail by the wall everyone will still hit the wall on every single first practice stroke. I can only guess it is out of habit to pull fully back and I guess with the bridge it goes beyond that. Doesn't do it again and certainly doesn't happen during the actual shoot, but every time on the first practice stroke.
 
All you have to do is move your counter with the sink to the left corner of the room. A little bit of plumbing and you'll be good to go with the 9 footer. That is an odd place for a pole. Like someone said before......why is it there?
 
Thanks guys,

I guess the plan now is to just set up the 9 footer, I have always wanted one, accept the post, and move it in the future once I get some money saved.

On the plus side, it will certainly help with keeping my cue ball coming back to the middle of the table I bet!!!
 
If you decide to remove the post and beam the span be sure you involve someone who is qualified to calculate the loads involved from the floor/floors above. Very few contractors are qualified to do this calculation. They will need to use an engineer or a well qualified building inspector.
 
Allen Brown said:
All you have to do is move your counter with the sink to the left corner of the room. A little bit of plumbing and you'll be good to go with the 9 footer. That is an odd place for a pole. Like someone said before......why is it there?
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I think there was a wall opened up at one point.

I think if I put a small post where the hallway meets the main room, and move the post in the middle of the room down towards the end I may be able to make that work over time as well, Here are 2 pictures from the listing that show more clearly what I am talking about.
 

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Cameras are a magical think arent they! The distance from the wall to the post looks huge! lol
 
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