Another Video -- Let Me Have It!

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BasementDweller

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I posted a video about a year and half ago and I got some good feedback. Scott Lee thought I was maybe gripping the cue too tightly. I agreed with him and ended up changing my grip around completely. I've worked on tightening up my cueing a bit more since then.

I just got a new camera so I figured I would do another video. What I did was I just went down and hit record. So, I start out a bit rough and miss several balls along the way, but it's a fairly accurate representation of my game. I'm playing a modified 10 ball ghost, where instead of shooting at everything, I play some safes, and I finish off the rack no matter what. After reviewing the tape myself, I noticed I'm lucky I didn't hurt myself on one of the break shots. :grin-square: Later, I even threw in a nice karate kick for good measure.

Oh, and another thing -- ladies my outfit is quite sexy, so try to control yourselves. Hey, it gets cold here in Michigan.

Another thing I noticed was I playing quite slowly....sorry about that. Also, my table is too slow, as you will see. It's really starting to hurt may game and hopefully I will be upgrading this year.

Anyways, if anything jumps out at you feel free to share it. There are three 15 minute videos....enjoy.

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THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK
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Chris, can't see any of your videos, they are on "private", and we need a code to see them.
edit: Now we can see them.
 
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Neil said:
Chris, can't see any of your videos, they are on "private", and we need a code to see them.
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Sorry about that. They should be good now. Thanks for showing interest. You were someone that provided some good feedback last time I posted a video. My break still sucks. I have not worked on it at all. I'm getting to the point where I really need to, but it's hard to when I'm really not that interested in it.

My PSR still probably needs some work. I've actually stopped thinking about it recently, and during this video I wasn't really thinking about anything.
 
Chris, I just got back in from shoveling. We got about 3-4" last night. I'm not supposed to be doing anything outdoors, especially shoveling, but I can't stand letting my wife do it when she gets home from work. Looks like you didn't get much if any down there. I mention that, because I didn't watch the videos real closely yet.

But, a couple of things popped out at me. First off, you are NOT shooting slowly. You took an average of way less than 15 sec. on each shot. Second, try and get in the habit of a real solid PSR. When you have one, you essentially are doing the same thing on each and every shot. Most don't realize just how big that is. It also helps set up a rhythm. It actually makes the game much easier and routine. It's actually what makes TOI work for most people. It's not really the TOI, it's more of doing the same thing on each shot and staying closer to centerball.

As to your break, it's not really "bad". Big thing on it- treat it just like any other shot. Really pay attention to just where you are hitting the one, and then observe what happens.
 
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I can't see your back hand.

The way you've got the camera set up, your back hand moves out of the picture when you're on the left side of the table, which is when you're back hand would be closest to the camera.

From the other shots where I can vaguely see it, it seems like you're turning it under but I can't tell for sure. Also, are you placing your cue under your left eye? It looks like you are, but I'm not sure.
 
Chris...Your process is all over the place...very inconsistent. On many shots you jump up before you even hit the CB. Like Neil said, a consistent PSR process will make wonders out of what you have now. Whenever you're ready, a video analysis will open your eyes! :D

Scott Lee
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Thanks to everybody that responded. I got kind of busy and had a tournament coming up so I didn't want to screw myself up too bad prior to that so I just put this on the back burner for the time being.

I think a couple of the comments made it clear to me that I sort of threw the baby out with the bath water when it came to my PSR. I gave up on the idea of having a set number of practice/warm up strokes and when I did that I also sort of gave up entirely on my PSR.

I've been thinking about my PSR for the past couple of days and this is what I want it to be:

While not addressing the cue ball:

1. Analyze the table, going over all my options. This includes determining whether or not I need to play safe, what ball I'm going to be shooting and where I need to position the cue ball. While I do this, I chalk my cue.

2. Find the shot line. While doing this my right foot will be pretty close to its final position, but might need a slight adjustment upon cue ball address.

3. Address the cue ball. Planting my right foot directly on the shot line and stepping into the shot with my left. Get down on the cue and take the needed number of warm up strokes.

4. Pause after my final warm-up stroke.

5. Pull back slowly and complete the shot.

6. Freeze upon completion of the shot.

Am I missing anything?

A couple other things:

Neil - you were spot on as far as my break was concerned. I definitely wasn't giving it the same level of attention that I was to the other shots. This jumped out at me once I started talking to some eight ball players about their 8 ball breaks. Many of them were really specific about how they were hitting the 2nd ball and where they were aiming at it. Or even the head ball break -- I was told by one player that he was aiming at the ball behind the 8 and lining up specifically aimed at that ball. I then realized I wasn't really focused in on the break like I need to be.

Fran - As far as my eyes are concerned, for the most part I THINK I just position the cue directly underneath my chin. I don't think it's under my left eye. I could be wrong though. I haven't really spent much time worrying about all the eye dominance stuff.
 
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Hey Chris,

I'm originally from Michigan (Midland), so know what you mean by those cold winters. :) Georgia treats me much better these days.

If you've got the time and are willing to drop a little money, take a lesson from a PBIA instructor. I took one in June of last year and am very glad I did. My performance tended to rise and fall with no steady improvement. Once I committed and took the lesson, the 4 hours I got have continued to help me time and time again. A lot of what you'll read on this forum with regards to SPF, pre-shot routine, etc. really becomes much more clear with a good instructor to guide you through it. It gives you much more depth than you can get from a forum posting.

That said, once you've gotten the lesson, I do think it's totally worth your while to use the forum for continued feedback from others. I just suggest the lesson because it will give you a new set of eyes to be critical of your own performance.

Ultimately it will cost you less than a new cue, and will do you a world of good to get some face to face guidance.

- James
 
Back hand starting position is a little too far forward causing you to use your shoulder to follow through.
Keep your head down and still.
Keep your eye on the OB.

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