Any help identifying this cue

Poolplaya9 said:
For those interested in this kind of thing there was a show from National Geographic a few years back that ran for a few years (9 seasons I think?) called "Brain Games" that went into tons and tons and tons of these kinds of tricks that your brain plays on you and exactly why it happens. How we often see things totally different than how they actually are, how we often see and hear things that are not there at all, how we fail to see things that are right there in front us, how our brain just makes all kinds of things up. Pretty interesting show for those interested in how our brain works and its many shortcomings.

Brain Games (2011 TV series) - Wikipedia

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Many of the episodes can be found at the link below, and I'm sure more are on youtube and other places around the web. I think there may be some on Disney+ at the moment as well for those that have a subscription.

Dailymotion

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I haven't seen that. Must be entertaining.

You can also look up Anton Syndrome. It's a rare disorder where a person is blind but thinks they can see. Their brain can manufacture "sight".

As a demonstration that your brain constantly does such things, you have been reading this while not seeing your nose until I mention it. Your nose is in your field of vision. Your brain has been "erasing" your nose and filling in the missing visual information by creating it.
 
Chopdoc said:
You can also look up Anton Syndrome. It's a rare disorder where a person is blind but thinks they can see. Their brain can manufacture "sight".
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Sounds kind of related to ghost limbs where people can still feel limbs that they no longer have. Both covered in the show.
Chopdoc said:
As a demonstration that your brain constantly does such things, you have been reading this while not seeing your nose until I mention it. Your nose is in your field of vision. Your brain has been "erasing" your nose and filling in the missing visual information by creating it.
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Yup, our brain fills in significant parts of our vision, pretty much all of the time, with stuff it is literally making up for us to "see". All covered in the show with many dozens if not hundreds of examples shown over the course of the series.
 
Poolplaya9 said:
Sounds kind of related to ghost limbs where people can still feel limbs that they no longer have. Both covered in the show.

Yup, our brain fills in significant parts of our vision, pretty much all of the time, with stuff it is literally making up for us to "see". All covered in the show with many dozens if not hundreds of examples shown over the course of the series.
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Your mind also makes up false facts, false knowledge.

The more you memorize, the more false knowledge your mind creates. It's an interesting thing that I run into teaching medicine.

The most inferior way to learn is rote memorization. Not only does it not include understanding, relevance, or conceptual management of information, it also increases false memories.

Think of this in pool. You may not have seen what you think you saw when you made a shot, and that may be why you have trouble replicating it. The more patterns and angles you try to memorize, the more false knowledge your mind will create. There is no way to know your mind is doing it and you will swear on your mother's grave you know somethin that isn't true. It's one of the most common problems if you visit AZB NPR, in addition to confirmation bias and Dunning Kruger.

Simple put, people see many things that are not true, not real. People know many things that are not true, not real. You can't really get anywhere until you admit it is true, that is Dunning Kruger. Most never get there.

Sports psychology applies to pool just as it does any other sport. But so does neuroscience. Most of what you see that trainers and coaches say they know and teach is actually "bro science" which is fraught with contradictions, falsehoods, difficulties, and false knowledge which makes it inherently severely limited. In more physical sports coaches and trainers are so harmful that their work they commonly leads to injury nd even death of athletes. What they do does work, and it is more than a blind squirrel finding a nut, but that it works is based mainly on the abilities and aptitudes of the athlete, not the trainer.
 
Chopdoc said:
Pigments are an interesting adventure to study. Some are very toxic. Some are very rare.

Interestingly as well, purple isn't a real color, it isn't in the spectrum, does not exist in nature. The perception of purple is created in the brain. This is part of why such pigments that produce that color perception were once very rare and very expensive. It was known as the "color of royalty".

The largest pigment archive in the world is the Forbes Pigment Collection at the Harvard Art Museums.

Nerd moment. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
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I realize this post has gone completely off the rails at this point but I can't help myself. I work in the printing industry. Inks and color are my bread and butter.

Color, like most things, is a much more complex subject than a lot of people realize. A very big reason for that is because so much of it is based on perception. We have spectrophotometers that can scan a color and break it down into a digital signature so it can be recreated elsewhere. But even that can't guarantee an exact match because there are so many other variables. Light source, substrate, viewing angle... Those are just a few that will completely throw off what a color looks like. That's not even taking into account the individual. Fun Fact: Women tend to have more accurate color perception than men.

I'm sure a lot of you guys know Brent Hartman (BHQ) and the incredible cues he made. And just throwing this out there, I don't have a problem naming him because he was very open about this, he's color blind. So there would be times he would post veneer stacks on Facebook (and maybe even here) asking if they matched and/or were the colors he thought they were. He's a great dude and I admire him for his workaround for being color blind but making cues where color matters so much.
 
Here's one for you guys. Which square is darker?

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They're both the same color. If you don't believe me, cover the middle section with your finger. This is your brain creating something based on the way it "should" be.
 
Chopdoc said:
Well, it's not even a mixture. The visible light color spectrum is ROYGBIV. It includes violet. Purple is not included nor it is a shade of any color in the visible light spectrum. You cannot combine any color pigments to get purple. It does not exist.

The perception of purple is a "trick" of the visual cortex. I know, it's hard to wrap your mind around it. There are other ways your visual cortex creates things. That's why when people say "I know it's real, I saw it with my own eyes" or "I will believe it when I see it" I just chuckle. That's why sworn eye-witness testimony is fraught with flaws. It's also something that is leveraged in the clandestine service, as well as in high level interrogation, and has been the subject of research in national defense. Reflect on the mysterious and legendary CIA "mind control experiments", it's much more than people commonly think. It's also the premise behind the Neuralyzer in the Men in Black movies.
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What about purple flowers, I have seen those and that's nature? Or is it a different and my brain tricks me into thinking its purple?. I can also make purple when welding stainless steel.
 
Chopdoc said:
Your mind also makes up false facts, false knowledge.

The more you memorize, the more false knowledge your mind creates. It's an interesting thing that I run into teaching medicine.

The most inferior way to learn is rote memorization. Not only does it not include understanding, relevance, or conceptual management of information, it also increases false memories.

Think of this in pool. You may not have seen what you think you saw when you made a shot, and that may be why you have trouble replicating it. The more patterns and angles you try to memorize, the more false knowledge your mind will create. There is no way to know your mind is doing it and you will swear on your mother's grave you know somethin that isn't true. It's one of the most common problems if you visit AZB NPR, in addition to confirmation bias and Dunning Kruger.

Simple put, people see many things that are not true, not real. People know many things that are not true, not real. You can't really get anywhere until you admit it is true, that is Dunning Kruger. Most never get there.

Sports psychology applies to pool just as it does any other sport. But so does neuroscience. Most of what you see that trainers and coaches say they know and teach is actually "bro science" which is fraught with contradictions, falsehoods, difficulties, and false knowledge which makes it inherently severely limited. In more physical sports coaches and trainers are so harmful that their work they commonly leads to injury nd even death of athletes. What they do does work, and it is more than a blind squirrel finding a nut, but that it works is based mainly on the abilities and aptitudes of the athlete, not the trainer.
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I don't know what I don't know.
 
Chopdoc said:
Your brain creates it. It does not exist in the physical world.
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I always heard this but it was about the color magenta which is similar to purple. It's super weird color because it's made up of wavelengths from the extreme opposite ends of the visible spectrum. If I look at it too long it makes my brain uncomfortable like looking at an M.C. Escher optical illusion drawing.

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Jimmy_Betmore said:
I always heard this but it was about the color magenta which is similar to purple. It's super weird color because it's made up of wavelengths from the extreme opposite ends of the visible spectrum. If I look at it too long it makes my brain uncomfortable like looking at an M.C. Escher optical illusion drawing.

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I believe a bit light for our conception of purple, but if cyan and black are added, I believe that gets closer to purple, or at least what we think it is.
 
I wonder how colors might impact pool play.

Balls. Cloth.

35 years ago one of the tables I played on had salmon cloth. Everybody hated it. It was in an "upscale" location and the cloth was picked by an interior designer.
 
Chopdoc said:
I wonder how colors might impact pool play.

Balls. Cloth.

35 years ago one of the tables I played on had salmon cloth. Everybody hated it. It was in an "upscale" location and the cloth was picked by an interior designer.
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I hear ya Chop Way back 25-30yrs ago there was 1 table in the league that had fire engine red cloth on it(owners choice). Nobody liked playing on that table, and if an 18 wheeler went by the place, the balls moved alittle bit. LOL No $hit true story
 
WildWing said:
I believe a bit light for our conception of purple, but if cyan and black are added, I believe that gets closer to purple, or at least what we think it is.
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Oh, I agree. But I work in color every day and know it's magenta. A lot of people aren't familiar with that name and call it hot pink or similar. Just adding some cyan to it will definitely get it closer to what we typically think of when we think of purple. But, believe it or not, adding black will just make it look dirty. The only way to get to that rich deep royal purple we think of would be to add something like Reflex Blue or 072 Blue to it along with some actual red. But in all honesty, if I wanted to make purple I wouldn't even include this color. Its light value is way too high and you'd end up fighting it with darker blues to get it dark enough to be purple. Plus, every ink company I've ever worked with makes plain old Pantone Purple as a base color so that's a pretty good place to start.
 
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