anyone else due for something new?
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I guess I am wrong too.
I own mostly very simple cues, from great cuemakers. I think Bill Schick is my favorite cuemaker, one of the reasons is he has done such diverse original stuff, verses Southwest which basically builds one cue over and over.
My favorite cue I own is a Bill Schick cue that has incredible veneers. Bill has done some WAY OVER THE TOP cues for some folks and they are great, just not my taste.
While I appreciate some of the wild abstract, artsy, fartsy stuff, I guess I am like the old Lynard Skynard song...Simple Man.
Best of rolls,
Ken
I own mostly very simple cues, from great cuemakers. I think Bill Schick is my favorite cuemaker, one of the reasons is he has done such diverse original stuff, verses Southwest which basically builds one cue over and over.
My favorite cue I own is a Bill Schick cue that has incredible veneers. Bill has done some WAY OVER THE TOP cues for some folks and they are great, just not my taste.
While I appreciate some of the wild abstract, artsy, fartsy stuff, I guess I am like the old Lynard Skynard song...Simple Man.
Best of rolls,
Ken
I made a statement before that cue makers were craftsmen and not artist.I want to correct my self and say the really good ones are truly both. I have seen some amazing designs along with amazing craftsmanship. I love looking at cue designs but in no way would pay what some people would pay. Not knocking anyone. think some people could spend the same money on something totally original for themselves. Some times I guess collects or someone who wants to be able to say they own a SW. See lots of money spent on plain jane (4 point) cues just because they are made by a certain maker. Makes me wonder what percentage of players ever heard of some cue makers. I know until I got on AZ and started looking at for sale cues I had no idea who most makers were.
Count me among the oldsters who prefer the traditional style. I love my Josey with it's four needle sharp and even points and colorful veneers. He doesn't show them on his website, but he is more than capable of making a traditional cue with an old style pantograph.
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great discussion so far in many areas. And no, not an advertisement for anyone. I was just wondering if other people shared my same thoughts. 4 point 4 veneer cues with a wrap and a hoppe ring, they are everywhere, and seems like every new guy on the block is building them. Just wanting something refreshing,affordable, and nice. I like plain cues with beautiful woods myself, and just are tired of the same old style over and over from cue makers. Time to stop copying designs that have lasted for many decades, and build a new wave of cues and designs.
some chinese cuemakers, like Zen cues as for example , are highly interesting, especially when it comes to design . i know, i know, not US made. but isn't beauty an universal concept ?
dom_poppa
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Traditional and classic design is great and will stand the test of time. You guys have to remember that these are tools like golf clubs. You are not going to see fancy gold plated clubs.
If it's going to be fancy and break tradition it better be very expensive.
Just like a Versace silk shirt, it's different but it's very expensive. Like this beauty that I want to purchase.
If it's going to be fancy and break tradition it better be very expensive.
Just like a Versace silk shirt, it's different but it's very expensive. Like this beauty that I want to purchase.
I gave up driving a chevy vega in 1978 , If you want the best there is cuemakers that push the envelope and they are the finest the world has to offer thomas wayne-Richard black- Ginacue - Bob manzino Richard chudy (rc3) but they all started off making 4 point cues but have pushed beyond the mundane!
http://www.cornerstonecues.com/cues_14.htm
http://www.cornerstonecues.com/cues_14.htm
I'm a more traditional style guy. I like the look of the wood, the contrast of fine points and the detail that the inlays provide. Its a style that has lasted because it is a great style. Truly classic. I have no problem with modern or different designs, but they'd be custom made or very cheep to sell.
Look at cars for example. A '65 mustang rolled off the lot brand new for $4,000-$6,000 depending on the options. Today, pristine examples sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars at auction. Today's modern cars no longer have a classic design that will last. You'll likely never again see a car's value appreciate over the next 50 years like the cars from that era have. They are classic. The design was great then and is still coveted today, just like the classic cue design. Its popular because its a great design, its not a great design because its popular. That is how you make something that lasts for the ages.
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That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have a Tesla or to drive a new Ferrari, just that 50 years from now that '65 will still be appreciating while the other two will likely be in a junk yard.
Look at cars for example. A '65 mustang rolled off the lot brand new for $4,000-$6,000 depending on the options. Today, pristine examples sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars at auction. Today's modern cars no longer have a classic design that will last. You'll likely never again see a car's value appreciate over the next 50 years like the cars from that era have. They are classic. The design was great then and is still coveted today, just like the classic cue design. Its popular because its a great design, its not a great design because its popular. That is how you make something that lasts for the ages.
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That doesn't mean I wouldn't love to have a Tesla or to drive a new Ferrari, just that 50 years from now that '65 will still be appreciating while the other two will likely be in a junk yard.
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Wellllllll.... That's not entirely true.
With pool cues, if it's made of maple or fiberglass or metal or whatever, you can still play with it.
With golf clubs, if it's not metal or a strong composite, you aren't swinging that club without it breaking.
The shaft of the cue is what needs to be the same, like a golf club; The butt of the cue can be a rectangle chunk of wood and you can still hit the ball... As long as the shaft is true.
It is stuff like this that will set the bar for future cue makers
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dom_poppa
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I doubt a Ferrari will be sitting in a junkyard.
The Mustang is an icon but unfortunately everything from Ford is not.
If anything a Ferrari is like a Balabushka/Szamboti.
Well, I hope this has convinced all you designer cue slugs that are ruining the image of pool to see your silly behavior and, once and for all, be done with it by throwing all your piece of shit cues in the fireplace. There is no place in this world for anything other than dots and diamonds. Oh the horror to even imagine. Steve Piesner, you especially should be ashamed of collecting such decadent trash. Before you throw them all out, could you send me the cue in this picture. I know there is no one else who could possibly want such a cue of poor taste but me. Tell you what, I'll sweeten the deal by sending you a Showman and a Searing. :smile: