Anyone have any Omaha John stories?

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I live in Omaha and was to young to see Omaha John play. They say he use to be one of the best in the country, especially for the cash. He no longer plays due to a medical condition but will pop in the pool room once a year and it would be great to have some stories to talk to him about. So, if you know John or know of him , would like to hear from ya, thanks.
John Shupet was his real name, not sure if I spelled it correctly.
 
Yes, I knew "Omaha John" Shuput, and even stayed at his house once on a road trip. There is a short story about it in my book. He was considered one of the best bar table players in his day. He played a slow, thinking man's game and might not miss a ball all day on a small table. His prime years were during the 1970's. He was retired by the early to mid 80's, one of the best players I know to hang it up for good, along with Pete Margo and Michael Coltrain. All for different reasons.

If you see him tell him I say hi and thanks for digging me out of that snow bank. :eek:
 
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Don't know any stories on John, but he was a bar box legend for sure. Saw him play at the first or second Clyde Childress tournament (1982 or 1983) and he played real good on the big tables too. He won the Miller Lite World Series of Tavern Pool in the early 80s. I believe Jay Helfert knew him so maybe he will pitch in a story or two.
 

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iIn the mid 1970's I walked into "Playmor Billiards" (72nd & Pacific St. Omaha)& asked for a 9 ball player. Out from the card room in the back came a tall slick looking fellow w/ manicured hands, nike shoes and designer jeans. Remember I said the mid 1970's! I asked to play some 9 ball and we commenced to engage in a race to 7 for a reasonable sum to a working stiff like me but even then I figgured a pittance for him. I got the break and ran an incredible 3.5 racks. I believe that was my high at that time. I hooked John behind several balls w/ the 9 about an inch from the rail and 4 " from the side pocket. He sauntered up to the table and quipped "9 ball side satchell". He jumped over the obstructing balls and made a 3 ball combination 9 ball into the side pocket. He then proceeded to manuver around the table using his mystical "Rigid Slip Stroke" and ran the following 6 racks. Such was my introduction to what would become my friend and mentor. I played John every chance I got. I always walked away a better player. He set the standard by which I measured every player including myself. He is without a singular doubt the classiest player I have ever seen. I was greatly impressed that day and 34 years later I am still impressed. I have other stories about John.
 
John and I took a little road trip........

I live in Omaha and was to young to see Omaha John play. They say he use to be one of the best in the country, especially for the cash. He no longer plays due to a medical condition but will pop in the pool room once a year and it would be great to have some stories to talk to him about. So, if you know John or know of him , would like to hear from ya, thanks.
John Shupet was his real name, not sure if I spelled it correctly.

Dave Matlack and John came to a tournament in Rochester Minnesota back in the 70's. I don't remember the whole story but the car they were driving was broke down in Eau Claire Wi.

We all got knocked out of the tourny but i made a pretty good score playing Tony Coleman from Michigan. I went back to the room and slept for a day while Tony was playing everyone, Danny Medina, jeff carter and a few others.

Tony had asked me to play some $50 a rack 9 ball the first day but i told him no. I wanted to be ready for the tourny. As I walked in the door the last night of the tourny Tony asked me to play some for $50. I told him I'd play for $100. He said bet $200. I didn't say another word but started screwing my stick together.

I beat him out of $2800 and he didn't hardly get to shoot.

John Shupit was there and he seen what had happened and started telling me about their bad luck. Him and Dave. It was almost Christmas and he said he had to go home with some cash to make it work.

I told him lets go hit some towns. He replied lets do it. Now i don't know if he went with me because he knew I could play or he knew i had a bankroll?

We headed up to Duluth Superior. i figured nobody up there would know him. it turns out they didn't even know me.

As luck would have it we went to the bar that has the action and there was these 2 millionaire brothers that owned a vending company. They knew little about pool but just enough to think the locals had a chance against John and myself.

We never brought in a cue stick but we played with the worst bar cue in the house. There was almost no tip on it. You had to hit center ball mostly or it would miscue. Sometimes it would just go CHINK when we hit the cue ball.

We kept playing these guys they kept bringing in and John and myself would act like, You play him, no you play him. back and forth. I don't think we lost a game.

I think we won about $1,500 to $2000. Then the action settled down. John was talking to one of the brothers about playing gin. john came over and asked me what I thought. I asked him how he played gin. He said pretty good. I told him pretty good don't bet my cash. He agreed.

they kept coming up with more games and finally asked to play cribbage. John asked me how i play cribbage. I told him I got the stone cold nutz. That was one of my road games. One of about 10.

We started playing for $200 a game I won about 4 games in a row if i remember right. One I skunked him so we were $1000 ahead. I wanted to raise the bet but i was afraid to scare'em off. They owed us the $1000. we were giving them the courtesy of just keeping a running total with the money from cribbage.

Then out of the blue he says lets play for $500 a game. I wanted to act like I was scared so i told him I'd rather just play for the $200. He replies, well then maybe we won't pay you guys then.

I said then, Looks like we're playing for $500 and I won't quit until I'm busted and you can put what i said in the bank. John looked at me kind of funny. But he knew that wasn't going to happen.

His name was Tommy and he acted like he thought he had the nutz. Each time we dealt the cards the other would strip shuffle for the other. This was the rules if we were going to play. This guy was going to have to beat me on the square. Not put cards where he wanted. He kind of shuffled the cards a little funny in some of the other games and had that we don't cut attitude. I don't think he was trying to cheat but you never can tell.


I think we only played 3 or 4 games for $500. The last one we played it was my crib and the guy needed 11 holes to win. he had a jack, 4 and 2 aces in his hand. There was a face card cut and that gave him 10 holes with his hand. One short of winning the game. He gets to count his hand first. He leads first so he doesn't have to peg a hole as we're playing down the cards.

I'll never forget this cribbage game. John knows how to play cribbage a little and his eyes were glued on the game.

As we're playing out the cards it came down to me having 2 cards left to play and he had one. I had a 5 and an ace. I looked at his cards played so far and the best hand he could have was 10 and that was if he had an ace left to play. I looked right at him and said, You got to have an ace left there. I played the 5 and watched him lay down the ace. He never pegged a hole and we won the game.

John looked right at me and said, How the hell did you know he had the ace.

I told him that's the only hand that he'd have enough to get out on if he pegged a hole.

They quit after that game and we got the cash. John was pretty excited. We made a score and Christmas was going to be OK.

During this trip john was having trouble with his neck. I nerve or something pinched. He'd be down on a shot and his head would like started turning all by itself to the right I think. He'd jerk it back kind of and it would drift right over again.

I don't think he knew Perfect Aim back then so it wasn't that he was trying to correct his Aim:D.

Anyway, I called him months later and he had quit pool he said and was living happily ever after. He said he had started selling insurance.

Anyway, I sure wish he wouldn't have quit because that is one guy i would have loved to have been on the road with.

His favorite phrase back then was Take it down. Get the cash.

John Shupit was a real warrior back then and a great part of our pool history in this country.

Pretty nice guy also.

And John, If you read this post somehow let me know how close I was on the money.

I think we won 4 to 5 grand that day and what a day it was.
 
I used to joke with John that his stroke looked like a pump. Steered him around Cleveland in mid 70's. He was driving a late model El Dorado & staying at a decent motel near the airport & got his car stolen, along with his cues & most of his rags. Brutal! He played great on all equipment but excelled with the big ball on a barbox. Really nice guy & super high energy personality. Jerry Brock was hangin around in these years & can't remember if they matched up. Nothin you go looking for unless you hate money. LOL
 
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I saw John shoot in a few tournaments but I wish I would have been able to see him shoot more. He had the coldest eye of any player I ever saw. A couple of friend of mine were at a little tournament in Red Oak Iowa. They got snowed in. John was there and the bartender had a guy he said he'd back for $50 a game in 9 ball. John won the flip and ran 13 racks the bartender lost $650 and his guy never got to shoot. He use it shoot in tounaments at Harlan Iowa. It was funny after a few of those to watch all the wantabes try and copy John's stroke. Last time I saw him was when SVB played Scott Frost at Big Dogs in Des Moines sad no one in there had any idea who he was.
 
Denny Moore said he was in Big Johns in Omaha and ran across John. He told Denny he was waiting to play a guy and asked Denny to play some $10 a game 9 ball while he waited. John ran 11 racks before Denny pulled up. He said I don't know how many John would have run but he was out $110 and never got to shoot. My brother told Denny yeah you were the guy he was waiting for :smile:
 
Mr. fasteddy,

1st stop for reading is Surfer Rod Curry's page. Click on several of the links at the top for various stories. He ran with John for quite awhile.

http://konnections.net/rodcurry/index.htm

Here's a couple of pics from Mary Kenniston's facebook (outstanding collection and thanks for all the hard work, Mary)

Both images courtesy of Kim Ann Shuput

Image 1 is pic and then what Rod and a few others wrote under it
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I was at a tournament a few weeks ago at Ft. Crook billiards and John was there. I am much too young to know John personally, but everyone there was calling people on their cell phone saying things like "Guess who's in this tournament?" or "OMG Omaha John is here".

Well, I thought he had a strange stance and stroke, but he was making about every shot he could see. But here's the proof in the pudding...He was shooting with his opposite hand due to an injury. So if shooting with your off hand is any indication - this guy was incredible. I can't imagine how good he was in his day if he can play as well as he did with his opposite hand. Neat stories posted here. A true legend.
 
Mr. fasteddy,

1st stop for reading is Surfer Rod Curry's page. Click on several of the links at the top for various stories. He ran with John for quite awhile.

http://konnections.net/rodcurry/index.htm

Here's a couple of pics from Mary Kenniston's facebook (outstanding collection and thanks for all the hard work, Mary)

Both images courtesy of Kim Ann Shuput

Image 1 is pic and then what Rod and a few others wrote under it
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i ran into John aroound 1980. he came to Denver and into this bar a friend of mine owned. I would take a shot at about anyone at that time. We had just made a scoreof about $20,000 and feeling pretty loose.
John came int one Saturday afternoon and I was called at home and went directly down to the bar.
i ddn't know john at the time but I had heard of him. We began playing $20 9 ball and it stayed pretty close for quite a while. Then I get a phone call from a guy amed Kent Taylor sho was accross town warning about Omaha John. He gave me the description and I knew I waslooking right at the guy.
ihung up and then had a buddy cruise the parking lot and sure enough there was a car from Nebraska out there. He had been queered.
We got even and I unscrewed. He looked surprised and I asked where he was from and he saide, Grand I sland Neb. I asked if he ever played John Shuput and he said yes but he needed the 8. i said,"Aint that guy a real *****"!
He cracked up laughing and he was busted. We laughed about that for weeks and weeks.
We hung around together a lot in Vegaas the year he won The miller lite thing. I remember him beating Allen Hopkins and Allen near went nuts over it.
The night John beat Ernesto in the finals we all went to the Serene Room to watch Surfer Rod play allen last pocket 8 ball for $1000 per game. It was the best I ever saaw Rod play as he wAs usually a big go ff artist. He played Allen very tough, like I said the best I ever saw him play and lost $23,000. Allen ran out from every imaginable place to destroy him.
i wassaddened to hear of John hanging it up so young due to health issues. He was a great player and a Joy to be around.
 
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