Anyone remember Billy Steele? How about...

Donny Lutz

Ferrule Cat
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I started a thread a couple years back about some great players that I was fortunate enough to play on teams with, but it didn't generate a lot of responses.

I'd love to hear any stories about Len Jaszewski, Whitey Lee, Timmy Stellpflug, Mike Haggerty, Louie Lemke, Jimmy Scrima, Pat O'Neill and Billy Steele, who was the best of all of them. Sadly, he passed away in his early thirties.

Louie and Jimmy are also gone, but I'd like to know what the others are doing now, as I lost contact with them long ago.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Yes.

Scrima passed away...might be a decade ago now?

Yes, I said that in my post.

Jimmy moved my game ahead in 1992, by showing me the advantages of the open bridge. I worked on his painting crew in '93. Our team took 3rd place at the '92 BCA nationals. The team was Jim and I, Ed Kiess, Greg Pappas and Doug Sharp (also gone). The next year we picked up Bob Gawthrop and Pat O'Neill, but Pat couldn't make the Vegas trip and we finished a disappointing 7th in the Masters.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Yes, I said that in my post.

Jimmy moved my game ahead in 1992, by showing me the advantages of the open bridge. I worked on his painting crew in '93. Our team took 3rd place at the '92 BCA nationals. The team was Jim and I, Ed Kiess, Greg Pappas and Doug Sharp (also gone). The next year we picked up Bob Gawthrop and Pat O'Neill, but Pat couldn't make the Vegas trip and we finished a disappointing 7th in the Masters.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor

And I grew up in Arlington...I know most all of those fish...err people you mention.
 
Unnecessary ibnsult

And I grew up in Arlington...I know most all of those fish...err people you mention.

They may have been "fish" to you, but they were great teammates. Have you nothing good to say about any of them?

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Hi there Don from one that knows............

I started a thread a couple years back about some great players that I was fortunate enough to play on teams with, but it didn't generate a lot of responses.

I'd love to hear any stories about Len Jaszewski, Whitey Lee, Timmy Stellpflug, Mike Haggerty, Louie Lemke, Jimmy Scrima, Pat O'Neill and Billy Steele, who was the best of all of them. Sadly, he passed away in his early thirties.

Louie and Jimmy are also gone, but I'd like to know what the others are doing now, as I lost contact with them long ago.

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor

Back in the 70's I met Billy, Whitey, yoursekf and the rest of the gang.

If I could take these guys at the top of their individual games we could have competed against any team in the country.

I remember Billy very well. He had it right. The food was the secret to our health. But from the sounds of it he didn't get it right with the food. I heard that is what did him in. Some kind of ulcer or something. Don't know for sure.

It was always a running battle with myself and Billy back then. I remember one time we played and he put this pyramid under the table. Something that was going to give him power. It must have worked because he won that day.

When I played my top game I would win but anything else was disaster when playing Billy Steele.

I always liked him, just didn't understand him. Now I would. He was a pretty good guy. Sure wish he was still around.

I was out to Dave Gross's house in Colorado and he pulled out an old Southwest. Back when I played Billy this was the cue he was using. Dave payed a bunch of money, don't remember how much, mainly because it was Billiy's. We had no clue about Southwest and how they played. Billy was way ahead of the rest of us on that for sure.

He used to also claim he would practice while he meditated. He told me he didn't need the physical practice. At least something on that order.

One time we played he went over in the corner and stood on his head. I don't even know what that was all about.

It was always a real tough game with Billy. I really didn't go looking to play him. We mostly played when we just ended up at the same place and we were both feeling like playing.

I know Don, that you knew Billy pretty good and maybe you could explain his death a little and some of these off the wall antics he used.

All in all I really liked Billy but back then I was pretty rednecked, drinking and smoking and these guys were just trying to be as healthy as possible. I envy that now.

Hoping to hear more about Billy.

Thanks Don for the thread down memory lane...........
 
I'm posting this for Don........

For some mysterious reason I'm unable to post a response to your post.

But here's my response...

Thanks for the nice compliment about me and my teammates. We'd have loved to have had you on those teams, as well!

Billy died of an infected ulcer, I believe at age 33. Didn't have anything to do with his diet. It was shortly after his lady (and young son) left him. He was spending just too much time on the road. When he got sick, he put off seeing a doctor till it was too late. I thought he sort of died of a broken heart. A couple of his detractors started the rumor that he died from malnutrion. Completely false.

The pyramid was a bit much, even for me!

I might have beaten Billy when we first met, but soon after he was the best in the area. Whitey told me that Billy didn't want to gamble with me because we were teammates and he didn't want to destroy my confidence! That's what a nice guy he was!

I believe he won that Southwest when he took a big-time gambler off for $19,000 in '86. He was paid in cash and cues.

The standing on his head was to increase blood flow to the brain when he felt any fatigue. It was a part of yoga practice that I turned him onto in '74. Billy called me the "godfather" of health-conscious players.

Billy was largely self-taught, although he read everything on pool he could find. He and Whitey took copious notes during their lengthy practice session. Some 500-600 pages that are now in the hands of our dear friend, Gary Scott in Madison.

-Donny
 
Donny,

Is Pat O'neill a relatively short left hand player perhaps in his late sixties now? If so, I see him yearly at the Super Billiards Expo. We've played many times. Really enjoy his enthusiasm. Great competitor.

Lyn
 
Pat O'Neill

Donny,

Is Pat O'neill a relatively short left hand player perhaps in his late sixties now? If so, I see him yearly at the Super Billiards Expo. We've played many times. Really enjoy his enthusiasm. Great competitor.

Lyn

Could well be! We played twice at the Green Room in Baltimore in the APA singles ('94 and '95), for the trip to Vegas. He beat me both times, though they were great matches. In one of them we had an incredible safety game that brought roars from the crowd. If you see him again, please let him know I'm still around too!

Donny L
PBIA/ACS Instructor
 
Donny,

Is Pat O'neill a relatively short left hand player perhaps in his late sixties now? If so, I see him yearly at the Super Billiards Expo. We've played many times. Really enjoy his enthusiasm. Great competitor.

Lyn

That would be Pat,hes hung in dundalks pool hall for years, in the baltimore area,he lives somewhere in the metro baltimore area,AS LONG as i have knowed pat, and its been a very very long time,always a gentlemen,played very well in tournaments and pool leauge nites,but for what ever reason Pat wouldnt bet 2dollars on the pool table and the man wasnt broke either,i never did ask him why he wouldntg play for money, i seen guys go up and ask Pat to gamble even, that Pat would of robbed if he just played half his speed,i guess Pat has his reasons,Pat also is always a very well dress man!
 
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