Anyone try CJ Wiley's SuperStance and SuperStroke Trainers?

[RandyinHawaii]

Has anyone tried CJ Wiley's SuperStance and/or SuperStroke trainers? If so, what is your opinion? Do they help?

Thanks in advance for any input.

I checked and didn't find any, but if there is another post on this, please let me know.

 

[u12armresl]

Has anyone tried CJ Wiley's SuperStance and/or SuperStroke trainers? If so, what is your opinion? Do they help?

Thanks in advance for any input.

I checked and didn't find any, but if there is another post on this, please let me know.

If CJ is marketing it, lol. All you need is a touch of inside and you can be a champion like I was.

 

[Swighey]

Snake oil

 

[Bob Jewett]

Snake oil

It's possible that the rubber band thing could actually help people who have stroke issues, but it seems to me to be too far removed from the mechanics of normal shooting.

As for the Arthur Murray foot templates...

... I have had several beginning students whose natural stance was with both feet in line with the cue stick, and one student naturally stood with their front foot on the wrong side of the stick -- like they had to pee really badly.

 

[Swighey]

It's possible that the rubber band thing could actually help people who have stroke issues, but it seems to me to be too far removed from the mechanics of normal shooting.

As for the Arthur Murray foot templates...

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... I have had several beginning students whose natural stance was with both feet in line with the cue stick, and one student naturally stood with their front foot on the wrong side of the stick -- like they had to pee really badly.

No idea. I didn't explore either of the Super thingys. It's CJ. It's snake oil.

 

[Bob Jewett]

No idea. I didn't explore either of the Super thingys. It's CJ. It's snake oil.

“No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” – Lily Tomlin.

 

[Swighey]

“No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” – Lily Tomlin.

You know as well as we all do....

 

[decent dennis]

There was a guy in St. Louis in early 80’s
John Cramer who came up with that before CJ.
Don’t know if he ever did anything with it or not.

 

[u12armresl]

There was a guy in St. Louis in early 80’s
John Cramer who came up with that before CJ.
Don’t know if he ever did anything with it or not.

None of CJ's ideas are original, even his hustling was taught to him from someone else.

 

[straightline]

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I don't know how Black-Balled got this but this is me bearing down during a crucial match.

 

[Rusty in Montana]

I don't know how Black-Balled got this but this is me bearing down during a crucial match.

Did CJ teach you to shoot like that ? ha ha

 

[straightline]

Did CJ teach you to shoot like that ? ha ha

Never met CJ. Don't understand the furor.

Shoot like what?

 

[Rusty in Montana]

Never met CJ. Don't understand the furor.

Shoot like what?

You posted that you didn't know how Black Balled got the picture of you shooting the shot while your bearing down during a crucial match .
Click on what you copy and pasted from Black Balled ha ha

 

[straightline]

You posted that you didn't know how Black Balled got the picture of you shooting the shot while your bearing down during a crucial match .
Click on what you copy and pasted from Black Balled ha ha

EEk.

 

[jlrowe]

CJ is definitely right on the stance. I had a older guy when i was in my mid 20's that tried to show me this and he was a jam up player and had a helluva stroke. I tried it for like 2 days and it just felt weird to me and i went back to my old way of lining up the shot with my right hip and stepping my left foot almost straight forward. Wish I had listened. I had always struggled with long straight ins. When i missed it was always to the right. Once i went to this stance, it put my cue more directly in the center of both eyes and helped my see the center of the cueball better. It has made a world of difference. I step out a lot farther to the side and squat more than CJ. More like my old friend that i should have listened to.

 

[Mensabum]

There was a guy in St. Louis in early 80’s
John Cramer who came up with that before CJ.
Don’t know if he ever did anything with it or not.

No he didn't.

 

[Mensabum]

CJ is definitely right on the stance. I had a older guy when i was in my mid 20's that tried to show me this and he was a jam up player and had a helluva stroke. I tried it for like 2 days and it just felt weird to me and i went back to my old way of lining up the shot with my right hip and stepping my left foot almost straight forward. Wish I had listened. I had always struggled with long straight ins. When i missed it was always to the right. Once i went to this stance, it put my cue more directly in the center of both eyes and helped my see the center of the cueball better. It has made a world of difference. I step out a lot farther to the side and squat more than CJ. More like my old friend that i should have listened to.

It's all in the squat!!
For us tall guys anyway.

 

[Hungarian]

It's possible that the rubber band thing could actually help people who have stroke issues, but it seems to me to be too far removed from the mechanics of normal shooting.

As for the Arthur Murray foot templates...

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... I have had several beginning students whose natural stance was with both feet in line with the cue stick, and one student naturally stood with their front foot on the wrong side of the stick -- like they had to pee really badly.

Are talking about the jumbo rubber band to add resistance to you stroke arm? I think that was concept was invented by Strong Arm John who was CJ's road dog back in the day. I remember when S.A.J. used to come to Houston with Whitey Walker in the 90's and he would always be practicing with that rubber band while Whitey was in action.