Anyone Use A Rhino Carbon Fiber Shaft?

[dendweller]

with this shaft for instance if I am shooting a med speed spinny cut shot I have to account more for spin throw as with the standard shaft the deflection canceled out the throw or at least seemed to.

I hear ya. If I was hitting one down the rail with inside want to follow 3 rails it was an entirely new experience. With a higher deflecting shaft I would add a bit of high to the inside to help cancel out the deflection, with real low I actually have to aim to the outside of the ball if I use high because it will swerve back so much.
Far as more spin, I had the same experience. Maybe when they say just a little more spin feels like a lot to me, I don't know. I shot with a revo for the afternoon, it was really spinny.

 

[sigep1967]

I hear ya. If I was hitting one down the rail with inside want to follow 3 rails it was an entirely new experience. With a higher deflecting shaft I would add a bit of high to the inside to help cancel out the deflection, with real low I actually have to aim to the outside of the ball if I use high because it will swerve back so much.
Far as more spin, I had the same experience. Maybe when they say just a little more spin feels like a lot to me, I don't know. I shot with a revo for the afternoon, it was really spinny.

yep
I see a difference in spin and power just takes getting used to. Like I said I play with it more towards center ball and get same effect. Which is probably a good thing just takes getting used to.

 

[Quesports]

Same boat here, love the Willard. I also got tired of shoddy installs by others.

I won’t name one cue maker that changed a tip on an original Stinger for me. I gave him an Odega break tip to install. During his sanding down the sides of the tip he heated the ferule up to the point the dust was permanently imbedded into the ferrule.
Looks like shit now.

I was going to ship it to Jerry but decided to just stick it in the closet.
Can’t even put a tip on… C’mon man!!!

 

[lord_shar]

I was looking at a couple of Rhino CF shafts on Amazon.com -- are they only available in 30" lengths?

 

[Grimper]

I have a 12.5 30" and love it. I shoot better with it than I do my Revo.

I think you can special-order a 29" one through their website -- but don't quote me on that.

 

[Vnv]

I got two custom 12.4 29” with the soft tip from their web site. Paid 40$ more for two custom ones. But also had 15% discount and no tax so it ended at 406$ for two with 20$ shipping included in 406$.

And they took a pictures before sending and measure it for me

 

[ngtvd]

well I am definitely spinning the ball more than with the old shafts don't know what the difference is but it is there.

It's not in your head. Carbon fiber transfers more energy than wood. More energy -> more revolutions in the ball = more spin

I was looking at a couple of Rhino CF shafts on Amazon.com -- are they only available in 30" lengths?

I'm getting a 29" shaft made and they told me to tack on another $25 in the tip section for customization.

I got two custom 12.4 29” with the soft tip from their web site. Paid 40$ more for two custom ones. But also had 15% discount and no tax so it ended at 406$ for two with 20$ shipping included in 406$.

And they took a pictures before sending and measure it for me

You're in the US? How long did it take for them to get it to you? They told me it'd be shipped from their Vietnam factory.

 

[Vnv]

It's not in your head. Carbon fiber transfers more energy than wood. More energy -> more revolutions in the ball = more spin



I'm getting a 29" shaft made and they told me to tack on another $25 in the tip section for customization.



You're in the US? How long did it take for them to get it to you? They told me it'd be shipped from their Vietnam factory.

Yes US and it took about 15 days to get it from the factory. They produce it after two days and sent me a pictures with all measurements and shipped from Vietnam.

 

[garczar]

It's not in your head. Carbon fiber transfers more energy than wood. More energy -> more revolutions in the ball = more spin



I'm getting a 29" shaft made and they told me to tack on another $25 in the tip section for customization.



You're in the US? How long did it take for them to get it to you? They told me it'd be shipped from their Vietnam factory.

more energy doesn't equal more spin. spin is a function of tip offset.

 

[ngtvd]

more energy doesn't equal more spin. spin is a function of tip offset.

I should've clarified that it'll increase the action on the cue ball. I don't think that person was saying the carbon shaft magically spins more than a wood one. I think they're noticing more revolutions of the ball due to the increased action.

 

[sigep1967]

I don't know what the difference is I just know what seems to be same tip offset gives me way more spin. I like it but have had to recalibrate allot of things and still am lol.

 

[garczar]

I should've clarified that it'll increase the action on the cue ball. I don't think that person was saying the carbon shaft magically spins more than a wood one. I think they're noticing more revolutions of the ball due to the increased action.

Again, NO. More spin is purely a function of tip offset. A CF shaft at equal offsets isn't going to spin it more. 'Action' is spin. A CF shaft MIGHT give a tad more power(my Rhino seems to a lil bit) but not a higher spin rate.

 

[garczar]

I don't know what the difference is I just know what seems to be same tip offset gives me way more spin. I like it but have had to recalibrate allot of things and still am lol.

No it doesn't. What difference a cf shaft has in terms of spin is none to tiny. I've test played quite a few and compared to a good solid wood shaft the spin is virtually the same. I hear this from people and when they let me hit their cue i hit a few and just hand it back and walk off. Believe what you want. I think Dr.Dave and others have tested this pretty well. https://billiards.colostate.edu/bd_articles/2019/jan19.pdf I like my Rhino a lot and any adjusting i had to do was in terms of power and the speed the cb comes off the tip. I even went to soft tip which is rare for me but it really helped in this regard. More from Dave: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue/low-squirt/#spin

 

[sigep1967]

all I know is the ball is spinning more for me. I may be striking farther out (don't seem to be) or some other dynamic is going on but I can definitely put more spin on the ball as I have tested against old shaft as well. I do know the deflection is way different from a maple shaft with Ivory ferrule LOL. What ever is going on I like it, really didn't think I would, but I do probably going to get another as a back up and put my old Maple shafts in the safe. I still have to think a little bit more as I have shot with Maple for 40 years and now pretty much don't have to account for deflection.

 

[dendweller]

all I know is the ball is spinning more for me. I may be striking farther out (don't seem to be) or some other dynamic is going on but I can definitely put more spin on the ball as I have tested against old shaft as well. I do know the deflection is way different from a maple shaft with Ivory ferrule LOL. What ever is going on I like it, really didn't think I would, but I do probably going to get another as a back up and put my old Maple shafts in the safe. I still have to think a little bit more as I have shot with Maple for 40 years and now pretty much don't have to account for deflection.

I've had the same experience and I've read others that have as well. Some one will always weigh in and spout some conventional wisdom and say you are wrong. With shooting though, what you perceive is the important part of the equation.

 

[ngtvd]

Again, NO. More spin is purely a function of tip offset. A CF shaft at equal offsets isn't going to spin it more. 'Action' is spin. A CF shaft MIGHT give a tad more power(my Rhino seems to a lil bit) but not a higher spin rate.

'Action' is slang. In this context I used it to describe a moving cue ball. I don't disagree with what you're saying at all but I also understand what OP was trying to convey. CF will transfer more power so he's seeing that effect on the movement of the cue ball. Semantically no, it's not that more spin is being applied.

 

[DieselDevilDawg]

I bought a Rhino Nebula 12.8mm tip and long pro taper. Really like the butt stock, it has a nice feel to it. Not too heavy. Took out the weight in the butt stock and that did the trick. Now, the longer carbon fiber shaft it a little bit heavier than stock and it feels just right. I was shooting with a Cuetec Cynergy 12.5 and really cannot tell the difference. I really like the longer shaft. As far as the material, they are exactly the same as the Predator Revo and Cuetec Cynergy. I'm sure the only difference is the construction of the inside at the front just behind the tip. I really can't tell that the deflection is better or worse. I'm sure a pro player would be able to tell, I just hold my own. I used to play with Cornbread Red in Detroit....I won some, he won more.

 

[muskyed]

Rhino's 30" shaft is not actually a 30" shaft as most are familiar with. They actually measure about 29 5/8" when measured the way most shafts are measured. They call it a 30" I guess as that is what it measures at the end of the tip, not the ferrule as usually done.
Sort of a blend of the two, not a 29" and not actually a 30". No big deal either way I guess.

 

[Choir Boy]

Just an update as I was one of the original posters with a positive opinion of the Rhino shafts. I've settled on a 12.2mm and I simply love this shaft. With a How medium tip I have complete control and faith in where the cue ball is going. After returning last summer to 9 ball after 50 years of not playing except for a few short periods, I'm now beating low 700 Fargo players and if the polishing of my cataract replacement lens goes as expected, I'll play in the US Open qualifier in July.

Hard practice and modern equipment makes for a huge jump in consistency. Thank you Rhino.

 

[Amaury]

I bought 2 shafts from Rhino : 11.8 and 10.5. I like both.
2 small things to add :

• the 11.8 have a small bit inside the tube that is rolling when I put it on a vertical axis. I totally forgot this when I am playing. Rhino asked me to send me a video which I never did because I am lazy.
• I had no CF residue when wiping unlike others said, but chalk dust get on it easily. Just need to wipe it down, like every hour. (Basically like a wooden shaft)