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VonRhett

VonRhett

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At the risk of beating a dead horse:

BD: The players in Reno were initially told that the checks were, for lack of a better term, “lost in the mail.” Then a week or so later the story changed to the prize fund being impacted by the Ho deal. What was the truth?

KT: Two things happened. All the checks were written and sent. But the Fed Ex didn’t arrive, which was no big deal. We figured we’d simply sign them on Monday.....blah, blah, blah....

See, if you or I blame a given shipping company for screwing up, it really is no big deal. Individuals say things like "UPS was late - sorry", when in fact they shipped it later then they planned or promised. No biggie.

But when the President & Founder (Keven Trudeau) of a company (IPT) goes on the record (Billiards Digest) making the same claim, in a very visible, hi-profile situation, being watched and reviewed by millions worldwide, well, he better be stating the truth.

And since KT's lips were moving when he made that claim, it's a safe bet that it was a lie. :p

I know that UPS will pursue outrageous claims like this, as though it were LIBEL, or DEFAMATION OF <Business> CHARACTER.

So even though in another announcement, he stated that an IPT employee forgot to check the "Saturday Delivery Box", that's not what he just said to BD. And that other announcement was not public; it was in an email to only a few hundred people.

See, what KT essentially just told millions of readers is that "due to FedEx NOT DELIVERING ON TIME, my $3 Million worth of Payroll Checks were not given to my players when I said they would be."

The "second thing that happened" is irrevelant.

My guess is that FedEx will not appreciate this.

-von
 
The story morphs yet again --- one iteration had it being the "checkbook" that was supposed to be delivered; this iteration indicates the checks were "written and sent". Now, the written and sent checks are somewhere cooling their heels, since there apparently isn't any money behind them. PHEW! Damn fine thing FedEx "messed up", or some IPT employee "messed up" by not checking "Saturday Delivery" --- or else there would have been a bouncefest.
 
After evaluating K*&T's triple speak it's like a combination of an auctioneer and Yogi Berra on meth....

On topic---FED EX's corporate offices are in MEMPHIS. I have a friend who is high on the food chain. He'll be made aware of FED EX's "failure to perform"
 
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ribdoner said:
After evaluating K*&T's triple speak it's like a combination of an auctioneer and Yogi Berra on meth....
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Some of this is valid criticism and some is not. In the BD article He did not say WHY the checks were not delivered by FedEx, he just said they weren't. The failure to check the Saturday Delivery box could still be the real reason they did not arrive, he just did not bother to detail it in this interview. None of us can, right now, say for certain fact that this was a lie or not. Not unless someone can get access to the FedEx database and confirm that there ever was a pick up of the checks in the first place, and if so what date it was scheduled for delivery on. Perhaps someone could just call Deno and ask for the tracking number?

However what is a valid criticism is the BD interview is suggesting the Ho deal was already in play and that the Reno purse was dependent on it being "in bed" by it's completion. In other words well before the Reno tournament started he knew that he had not got enough funds on hand to pay the prize fund, and that if something should happen to delay the Ho funding deal (Which at that point none of the players were aware of) that he would not be able to pay out on the final day, let alone pay as soon as each player was eliminated.

Why he couldn't just put aside the funds he had supposedly already committed to Reno and make this totally seperate from the Ho deal from the start, given that the date and cost of Reno was known well in advance, seems like a good question to me. At present the only logical answers I can see are:

1) He didn't want to spend anymore of his own money on the IPT
2) He didn't have enough of his own money to cover the Reno purse
3) He and his company are so incompetant they got themselves stuck in a legal mess with Ho that tied up all the IPT funding (Basically KT's explanation to date)
4) Some combination of 1, 2 and/or 3.
 
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If the funding wasn't in place prior to Reno, why were the checks "written and sent", only to be caught in a shipping snafu? How long does it take to redirect them after any kind of shipping snafu? Were they "written and sent" on a wing and prayer, "hoping" that the money would magically appear between Saturday and Monday? This is reeking of PURE BS.
 
cuetique said:
If the funding wasn't in place prior to Reno, why were the checks "written and sent", only to be caught in a shipping snafu? How long does it take to redirect them after any kind of shipping snafu? Were they "written and sent" on a wing and prayer, "hoping" that the money would magically appear between Saturday and Monday? This is reeking of PURE BS.
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Well.. I think the latest iteration if his "explanation" is that the funds were there on Friday or something, and that over the weekend, the finances with some deal or another went "upside down".

In other words, the money was 'there' on Firday, but 'not there' (through no fault of Kevins, snigger) on Monday. Sounds unlikely, at best.

BOY would it give me such a h**d on to see FEDEX suing Kevin Trudeau for libel if it were found out if no checks were ever sent out. That would be some good s**t!

Russ
 
Russ Chewning said:
BOY would it give me such a h**d on to see FEDEX suing Kevin Trudeau for libel if it were found out if no checks were ever sent out. That would be some good s**t!

Russ
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I guess it is just to ask FedEx then?
 
AuntyDan said:
Some of this is valid criticism and some is not. In the BD article He did not say WHY the checks were not delivered by FedEx, he just said they weren't. The failure to check the Saturday Delivery box could still be the real reason they did not arrive, he just did not bother to detail it in this interview. None of us can, right now, say for certain fact that this was a lie or not. Not unless someone can get access to the FedEx database and confirm that there ever was a pick up of the checks in the first place, and if so what date it was scheduled for delivery on. Perhaps someone could just call Deno and ask for the tracking number?

However what is a valid criticism is the BD interview is suggesting the Ho deal was already in play and that the Reno purse was dependent on it being "in bed" by it's completion. In other words well before the Reno tournament started he knew that he had not got enough funds on hand to pay the prize fund, and that if something should happen to delay the Ho funding deal (Which at that point none of the players were aware of) that he would not be able to pay out on the final day, let alone pay as soon as each player was eliminated.

Why he couldn't just put aside the funds he had supposedly already committed to Reno and make this totally seperate from the Ho deal from the start, given that the date and cost of Reno was known well in advance, seems like a good question to me. At present the only logical answers I can see are:

1) He didn't want to spend anymore of his own money on the IPT
2) He didn't have enough of his own money to cover the Reno purse
3) He and his company are so incompetant they got themselves stuck in a legal mess with Ho that tied up all the IPT funding (Basically KT's explanation to date)
4) Some combination of 1, 2 and/or 3.
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My statement is applicable to IPT MGMT's body of work. The check fiasco is only a portion.....
 
cuetique said:
If the funding wasn't in place prior to Reno, why were the checks "written and sent", only to be caught in a shipping snafu? How long does it take to redirect them after any kind of shipping snafu? Were they "written and sent" on a wing and prayer, "hoping" that the money would magically appear between Saturday and Monday? This is reeking of PURE BS.
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He's smart enough not to issue any bad checks. That is no longer civil, but criminal. Better to just not issue any checks and make up some good stories about why.
 
jay helfert said:
He's smart enough not to issue any bad checks. That is no longer civil, but criminal. Better to just not issue any checks and make up some good stories about why.
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Good point. As I've said before, IF this all ends up in court then there will be investigations and depositions and the truth will come out in the end. However if he pays out we may never know what really happened.
 
Two words:



TRACKING NUMBER



If he cannot produce these numbers for the 200 players that played in Reno, he's just full of shit.


I can't believe all the worshipers buying into KT's crap. I've been around a lot of scammers and all his talk is cheap. Classic lies and delay tactics.


Will he eventually pay? Maybe, I don't know, but it's looking bad. Whatever the case, FedEX doesn't lose or fail to ship 200 envelopes. They are quite good actually.


This is corporate slander. Fed Ex should sue him. I would.
 
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