APA 5 - How much weight would you give?

I'd try it against a true 5. Sounds like a pretty fair spot against a 9. If they're nits for asking, then you're just looking to steal. No need to be a jerk over those lower players being excited they won either.
 
Good lord lol I guess no one read my 2nd post. I'm not a jerk to them at all. I shake there hand and tell them how good they played. It's more laughing on the inside at the ones who then walk around the bar bragging they beat me when I still made 30 more balls then they did. I would never laugh or make fun of how someone plays.
 
bobprobst said:
Hypothetical.

Race to 7. 9 ball. You set the stakes.

I'm asking for one on the wire, all the breaks and the last 3 plus one additional push during each rack.

What's your bet and your speed.

Just asking :wink:
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I'm not now or ever have been an APA player.

I quit playing in 1997.
I retired in 2011, fought cancer in 2012 - 2013.
Just started back in late 2013.

Here's my Hypothetical counter proposal.

I'll spot you the 1 and out.
So you win any game that you legally pocket a ball by contacting the lowest ball 1st.

No jump cues.
3 fouls in a row by same player is loss of game.
CB fouls = BIH.
I get all the breaks and ball in hand after the break weather I pocket a ball or not.
I get to rack.

I don't have to travel more than 1 hour each way.
We limit sessions to 3 -4 hrs each day. (I'm old)
It's over when the loosing player quits or an agreed number of sessions which ever comes 1st.

P.S.

I read some of your posts and it sounds like you are a strong 5 :)
 
SilverCue said:
I'm not now or ever have been an APA player.

I quit playing in 1997.
I retired in 2011, fought cancer in 2012 - 2013.
Just started back in late 2013.

Here's my Hypothetical counter proposal.

I'll spot you the 1 and out.
So you win any game that you legally pocket a ball by contacting the lowest ball 1st.

No jump cues.
3 fouls in a row by same player is loss of game.
CB fouls = BIH.
I get all the breaks and ball in hand after the break weather I pocket a ball or not.
I get to rack.

I don't have to travel more than 1 hour each way.
We limit sessions to 3 -4 hrs each day. (I'm old)
It's over when the loosing player quits or an agreed number of sessions which ever comes 1st.

P.S.

I read some of your posts and it sounds like you are a strong 5 :)
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So, basically...you want to play the ghost. Except, you get to play safe.

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Depends, do the last 3 count on the break and do I get to rack for you? If they don't count on the break, and I get to rack then I'll take that bet.

When I quit the APA a few months ago I was a 7 in 9-ball and I've made significant improvements since then. I find it hard to compete under league pressure because I feel like eyes are on me, but under gambling pressure I thrive and play my best and I think the way a player should.

So, if my two point of clarification above are met then I'd take that bet. Also, as others say you must be a legitimate 5 in skill-level and not on paper.
 
Zphix said:
Depends, do the last 3 count on the break and do I get to rack for you? If they don't count on the break, and I get to rack then I'll take that bet.

When I quit the APA a few months ago I was a 7 in 9-ball and I've made significant improvements since then. I find it hard to compete under league pressure because I feel like eyes are on me, but under gambling pressure I thrive and play my best and I think the way a player should.

So, if my two point of clarification above are met then I'd take that bet. Also, as others say you must be a legitimate 5 in skill-level and not on paper.
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Last three means the last three balls on the table. It's not a particular ball. If you potted the 7 and 8 on the break, and combo'd the 6 in, you don't win. You have to run to the last three balls on the table. So, if you had the 5,6 and 9 left after pocketing the 4, you win the game.

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seven_7days said:
What does an apa5 or 6 look like playing 9 ball anyway?
Anyone have a video link? Sorry, I've never played leage before.
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I think a legit APA 5, who has been a 5 for a while, who shoots every ball with their full effort and is not trying to manipulate the system, looks like what we would call in the northeast a C- player. They will typically run 4 or 5 balls, usually end their turn on a miss or botched safe, might break and run a rack once per session in league.

As such, I want to try this spot for fun. I guess I'm rated an A player in my area. When I think of the typical APA 5, I could certainly give them the breaks and the last 3 on a big table, probably on a bar table too. I don't know what the extra push out per rack would get them. Whatever they push to, I have the advantage. How great this or that 5 plays is really irrelevant. I'm talking about correctly handicapped 5's. I will find someone who I think is correctly handicapped and try a cheap set with this spot. I'll report my results.

KMRUNOUT
 
SilverCue said:
I'm not now or ever have been an APA player.

I quit playing in 1997.
I retired in 2011, fought cancer in 2012 - 2013.
Just started back in late 2013.

Here's my Hypothetical counter proposal.

I'll spot you the 1 and out.
So you win any game that you legally pocket a ball by contacting the lowest ball 1st.

No jump cues.
3 fouls in a row by same player is loss of game.
CB fouls = BIH.
I get all the breaks and ball in hand after the break weather I pocket a ball or not.
I get to rack.

I don't have to travel more than 1 hour each way.
We limit sessions to 3 -4 hrs each day. (I'm old)
It's over when the loosing player quits or an agreed number of sessions which ever comes 1st.

P.S.

I read some of your posts and it sounds like you are a strong 5 :)
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This is a gaff game. Doesn't everyone know this one by now? This is like playing the ghost, except much much easier. Any A player should routinely beat the ghost. Any A player should rob *anyone* giving up this spot.

KMRUNOUT
 
KMRUNOUT said:
This is a gaff game. Doesn't everyone know this one by now? This is like playing the ghost, except much much easier. Any A player should routinely beat the ghost. Any A player should rob *anyone* giving up this spot.

KMRUNOUT
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I'm no longer an A player. When I quit in 1997, I was probably a strong A :)
But I can play B level for short duration matches and I know the in's and out's of this gaff :)
 
Sounds like:

1) You're not a gambler
2) You should find a game that doesn't require 100 different conditions for an opponent to play you
3) APA players, especially 5's don't bet, so you are either higher, hiding your speed, or on a fishing expedition.


bobprobst said:
Hypothetical.

Race to 7. 9 ball. You set the stakes.

I'm asking for one on the wire, all the breaks and the last 3 plus one additional push during each rack.

What's your bet and your speed.

Just asking :wink:
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bobprobst said:
Hypothetical.

Race to 7. 9 ball. You set the stakes.

I'm asking for one on the wire, all the breaks and the last 3 plus one additional push during each rack.

What's your bet and your speed.

Just asking :wink:
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if you were a regular 5 who had over a 100 games in as a 5 id give you what you asked for

play 100-500 a set

against an A + player or my defintion of A+ you should never win that game
 
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