APA Forum

[Neil]

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[kaznj]

The APA has their own website. Having their own forum on there would be a great idea. I don't see that happening. The organization is making money. Why would they want to change anything? It is very easy for someone to get bumped up in skill level. This forces the team to break up, and usually you end up with 2 teams. More money. I have a feeling that the organization does not want to hear from the players. Just pay your dues.

 

[Thunderball]

APA guy posting.Only thing going in my town as well.It's not perfect,but whatever is? I enjoy and think it's good for pool as a whole.

As far as seperate forum,I vote no.I just don't see the need imho.

Just noticed this:

And they aren't going to be here to talk about pool.

Ahem...<cough>...[clears throat again]...

 

[Neil]

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[beav99_4life]

I'll pose a question to you sir, would you play in a Pool League that only had the best players in the area, S/L 6 or better, no handicaps, Race to 7, play 8 ball and 9 ball the same night, with no coaching or timeouts allowed, it's man or woman, mono a mono, would something like that interest you for $13.00 dollars per match? How much do you spend a week just in table time alone unless you have a table at home.

Just curious please answer honestly. oke:

Black Cat

In a heartbeat, I would love only playing against the best players. I dont spend too much on table time, my buddy lives right around the corner and has a table and we play 4-5 nights a week.

 

[Thunderball]

Thunderball, please note that I said most will not be here. But, I also stated that a lot of our current posters ARE league players.

No worries Neil....I was only referencing you blanket statements towards the end....which (considering your point) I happen to agree with on the whole.

BUT...I joined this site to try to bring my game up,handicap be dammed. I'm sure I'm not the only one.If it wern't for league play over all these years,I'm not sure I'd be interested now.I do agree even if I'm not alone,I'm an exception most likely.

Just sayin....it can light the fuse of interest...or in my case,keep it lit longer I guess.

Good rolls Neil,
TBall

 

[rope_one]

What would you hope to accomplish by having a seperate section for APA (or league play, there are a number of different leagues)???

It seems that you feel that many league players are only lurkers, and a sep. section would get them posting. I disagree. A lot of the current posters are league members.

What would they talk about there?? There would be very little knowledge about improving, as most league players don't really care to improve. (Not all, but most) So, all you can talk about is how to match up the team, and how you won or lost getting or giving a spot. How long can that last? If you start talking about other pool related topics, then how would you be any different from the main forum now?

There would still be dissing of the APA by Valley, BCA, ect., other leagues, and vice versa. So that would not change.

League play is a two edge sword. It gets more people playing pool. But it should be a stepping stone to the pool world. Instead, it is constructed to be it's own little segment, which you advocate by wanting it's own subforum. This is one of the things that some of us hate about leagues. It is good for the room owners, as it gets more people in. But it is bad for pool overall, because 90% plus of the players in leagues never do anything else with pool. And are actually encouraged not to. Most are told not to get better so their handicap won't go up.

The leagues need to change to where the participants are encouraged to get better. To where it is an honor to go up in handicap. To where the higher handicaps can play (more than one game like some leagues). To where the players will want to come in to the rooms off league time to practice and get better.

Most lurkers, I feel, are just that because they want to be. Not because they are afraid of getting bashed for being league players. Very few of us even use our own name here, so they are anonymous anyway.

I have talked to a number of league players about checking out the forums. They could'nt care less about it. The leagues are no more than a 'legitamate' excuse for them to go out and drink on a weeknight and not feel guilty about it. Which really, for the most part, is what league play is all about. You sit there all evening to play a couple of games. They aren't really there to play pool. And they aren't going to be here to talk about pool.

I think you right. There probably really isn't an over riding good reason. My only thought was most league questions usually turn into bash sessions about general league sterotypes before the post ends and sometimes before the question gets answered. I thought it might help with that if the questions weren't in the general area, but really its probably just a function of being on an internet board.

Thanks for the input

 

[smoooothstroke]

kinda weak Andrea

What I dont understand,(and frankly,it just annoys me) why people down the APA so much. Dont people realize if it wasnt for the league teams in the rooms and league houses, some of these establishments would be closed down!!!!!!
As far as making a separate APA forum. I dont think it is a good idea. Why? Are some players to good to have the APA on this forum??? Do they feel bothered by APA threads??
I played APA years ago, and have decided to be a sub this session. I want to support the house where I play. I dont consider myself an APA player full time. But I am going to damn well defend what contributes to keeping our rooms open, so ALL OF US can still play this game WE all love.
IMO, there is room for EVERYONE!!!!!!

Walked into my room two weeks ago, and the APA Citys Finals were being played. (the winner goes to Vegas!!!!) Our regular sunday tourney was being played in the back room.(APA had the area where they usually play our sunday tourney) A few minutes later the front area went crazy with yelling and hollering of victory screams from the winning team. The guys in our regular sunday tourney looked annoyed from all the screaming!!! (one in particular) I looked at some of them and said, "see those people out there", those are the players who pay the bills". Nobody said a word.!

I consider myself a serious player. And I will keep on supporting and defending the institution that allows me to keep playing the sport I love so much!!!!!!!

Ok, Im done. LOL

Speaking for myself I am not bothered by APA threads on this POOL forum....amused would be a better word.

I have to question weather you are an APA player at all-

A. you shoot straight

B. no visible tatoos or piercings

C. I have never seen you play pool when drunk

I realize you are now on a current APA roster having recently gone back to the APA.Didn't you just play your first APA match yesterday after a long time away from the APA?? How did that go???

Yes I realize they pay the rent but other then that why should APA threads be on a POOL forum????

 

[Milo]

Yes definately weak!! My opponent wouldnt give me a good rack!!! LOL

Speaking for myself I am not bothered by APA threads on this POOL forum....amused would be a better word.

I have to question weather you are an APA player at all-

A. you shoot straight

B. no visible tatoos or piercings

C. I have never seen you play pool when drunk

I realize you are now on a current APA roster having recently gone back to the APA.Didn't you just play your first APA match yesterday after a long time away from the APA?? How did that go???

Yes I realize they pay the rent but other then that why should APA threads be on a POOL forum????

Yes, its been awhile since I played on a 8 man roster. I played a 4.(9ball)
He would not give me a good rack, and he was very obvious about it. LOL
I just gave up after awhile. He was getting pissy with me. LOL Oh well.
Yes, you are right, it didnt go very well, but I just took the high road knowing he is not very experienced. With that said, I will still support APA.
Everyone has to start somewhere.
As far as the APA being on this forum. There is room for everyone!!!! Including APA.

 

[smoooothstroke]

Ahah!

Yes, its been awhile since I played on a 8 man roster. I played a 4.(9ball)
He would not give me a good rack, and he was very obvious about it. LOL
I just gave up after awhile. He was getting pissy with me. LOL Oh well.
Yes, you are right, it didnt go very well, but I just took the high road knowing he is not very experienced. With that said, I will still support APA.
Everyone has to start somewhere.
As far as the APA being on this forum. There is room for everyone!!!! Including APA.

I knew it you are an impostor.

Your last post demonstrates that you are capable of reason thereby you are no APA player!

 

[Matt90]

Apa

Please God no !!! They have a website all to themselves
I just quit APA after trying it out for about 18 months
As a star trek /sci fi fan I can only say this APA may
be the borg of pool .....at least in this area :grin:

 

[Milo]

Lol

I knew it you are an impostor.

Your last post demonstrates that you are capable of reason thereby you are no APA player!

HaHa,, Very Funny!!!! But yes I am an APA player. Maybe I can show by example of good sportsmanship. I think some APA players dont know any better. Its up to the higher skill levels to show them the way. IMO

 

[NateSchoepf]

Speaking for myself I am not bothered by APA threads on this POOL forum....amused would be a better word.

I have to question weather you are an APA player at all-

A. you shoot straight

B. no visible tatoos or piercings

C. I have never seen you play pool when drunk

I realize you are now on a current APA roster having recently gone back to the APA.Didn't you just play your first APA match yesterday after a long time away from the APA?? How did that go???

Yes I realize they pay the rent but other then that why should APA threads be on a POOL forum????

WOW, Jerry, this shows me a lot, there are a lot of apa players that can shoot straight, don't have piercings and don't play drunk, infact, I know quite a few who are much better than you, keep your narrow way of thinking to yourself. Cant believe I agree with Andrea, but come on, the apa is hated because it does well.

 

[FLICKit]

Good overall summation in your post #21.

I especially agree with this part.

The leagues need to change to where the participants are encouraged to get better. To where it is an honor to go up in handicap. To where the higher handicaps can play (more than one game like some leagues). To where the players will want to come in to the rooms off league time to practice and get better.

 

[Snapshot9]

First and foremost

The APA needs a much more discrete handicap system to rid itself of sandbagging. The base handicapping system is flawed, and they have, over the years, tried to band-aid it to make up for it's flawed system (23 max rule).

 

[APA7]

I feel the APA has a place in pool. Pool iz better 4 having the APA. I dont see it hurting pool N I dont understand the haters. :frown:

Brian

 

[s'portplayer]

Any other Forum

Just like any other Forum that you have no interest in, Don't visit ana APA Forum.

I'm sure it's widely known that the APA is the largest amateur pool league in the nation, thus would have alot of people who would want to visit a Forum set aside for them.

For those anti-APA folks, simply don't visit the Forum if you have nothing constructive to add.

 

[PKM]

If there were a lot of threads about APA handicapping, rule disputes, general whining about the APA, then I could see the argument for a separate forum but I don't think that's the case.

League players with general pool questions or comments belong in the main forum. It has its flaws but not everyone who plays in the APA is a drunk who doesn't care about pool.

 

[mreightball]

I think that the APA and any other Leagues are fine for the industry.
My only problem is that some of these leagues are businesses for operators running them. Where I am from we have 2 seperate leagues on 2 seperate nights and all the moneys collected from this all goes back to the players in prize money for what place you come in at the end of the season. Also another benefit is if you run the table your first time to the table with all the balls still up you get $20 if you make the 8 ball on the break you get $10. It costs $5 a night to play and $10 to join. There is no pie in the sky promise of going to Vegas or anything like that. I know people who play in these other leagues who put all the money in and get nothing back. Figure it out all the teams / all the players / all the dues / all the $$ to play / that all adds up to quite a bit of money. And none of it goes back to the players. Something wrong with that scenario.
PS And I'm not trying to pick on the operators either thats just the way it is.

 

[bigshooter]

Of course we don't an APA forum on AZ, that might cause more players to join and actually post and we might not agree with everything we say, make them run off to their own website.

This is exactly the attitude that has killed the organization of men's pool for years, everyone wants everyone else to get in their little box and stay away from one another.

God forbid we disagree but still get along for the good of the sport.