I agree. But isn't a great feeling when you KNOW someone is trying to shark you and you don't let it bother you and ya just fire in the ball and take down the money?
APA "Quarter Sharks"
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I agree. But isn't a great feeling when you KNOW someone is trying to shark you and you don't let it bother you and ya just fire in the ball and take down the money?
Except that I never missed, ever on the coin move. No different than standing in front of u waving their cue. Just not cool, but at least I now know my opponent has conceded the game next time they do it.
It is even better when they do it and you look away from the shot at them, ask if they are done yet and then fire in the ball as you are still looking at them.
i used to wear headphones when i was shooting in apa. nobody here had any issues with it. i'm sure you can't at the national level, but for me it helped with a lot of the unintentional stuff and kept me from having to have those conversations. simply take one or both out when you're not shooting so everyone can communicate. i also used the non noise cancelling ones so you can hear if someone is trying to call your name or something but it'll drown out little stuff like coins jingling.
I read your posts all the time, I had no idea you were so funny.....
c'mon man, don't be ridiculous. It's great to have that sort of conviction, but be reasonable.
Yes sir it is.
having played solely in bars off and on for 35 years until i joined leagues i learned to fade the loud music,,,,,,careless drunks staggering around and bumping into you...scantily clad women prancing around in time with the music....well somtimes on that last one.
after playing in that environment for so many years the things that people do that irritates most of you don't phase me at all.
about the only thing that sharks me is when some one gives me a compliment on my shooting......or remarks about my shooting. they are not intended as a shark move but it has the same affect.
a good friend of mine who is a 7/9 and i played some 9 ball after league a few weeks ago. we used to play together quite often but for one reason or another had not played each other in about a year.
after 4 racks we were tied at 2 apiece and as he was racking he said....man you are shooting great and have improved quite a bit. i shot like shit the rest of the night and lost 10 in a row.
last wed night in my apa 8 ball travel league after winning the lag i broke and ran down to the 8 ball. as i was getting down to shoot the 8 this older woman on the opposing team said ....dang he ain't missed a shot. wouldn't you know it ? i missed the 8 lol. it was not a hard shot and i knowi would have madeit if she had not said anything .
while i don't agree with how cleary worded it i do agree with the gist of his opinion about its your own fault when you miss. i don;t blame that lil old lady for me missing out on a b& r...i blame myself for letting what she said get into my head.
after playing in that environment for so many years the things that people do that irritates most of you don't phase me at all.
about the only thing that sharks me is when some one gives me a compliment on my shooting......or remarks about my shooting. they are not intended as a shark move but it has the same affect.
a good friend of mine who is a 7/9 and i played some 9 ball after league a few weeks ago. we used to play together quite often but for one reason or another had not played each other in about a year.
after 4 racks we were tied at 2 apiece and as he was racking he said....man you are shooting great and have improved quite a bit. i shot like shit the rest of the night and lost 10 in a row.
last wed night in my apa 8 ball travel league after winning the lag i broke and ran down to the 8 ball. as i was getting down to shoot the 8 this older woman on the opposing team said ....dang he ain't missed a shot. wouldn't you know it ? i missed the 8 lol. it was not a hard shot and i knowi would have madeit if she had not said anything .
while i don't agree with how cleary worded it i do agree with the gist of his opinion about its your own fault when you miss. i don;t blame that lil old lady for me missing out on a b& r...i blame myself for letting what she said get into my head.
having played solely in bars off and on for 35 years until i joined leagues i learned to fade the loud music,,,,,,careless drunks staggering around and bumping into you...scantily clad women prancing around in time with the music....well somtimes on that last one.
after playing in that environment for so many years the things that people do that irritates most of you don't phase me at all.
about the only thing that sharks me is when some one gives me a compliment on my shooting......or remarks about my shooting. they are not intended as a shark move but it has the same affect.
a good friend of mine who is a 7/9 and i played some 9 ball after league a few weeks ago. we used to play together quite often but for one reason or another had not played each other in about a year.
after 4 racks we were tied at 2 apiece and as he was racking he said....man you are shooting great and have improved quite a bit. i shot like shit the rest of the night and lost 10 in a row.
last wed night in my apa 8 ball travel league after winning the lag i broke and ran down to the 8 ball. as i was getting down to shoot the 8 this older woman on the opposing team said ....dang he ain't missed a shot. wouldn't you know it ? i missed the 8 lol. it was not a hard shot and i knowi would have madeit if she had not said anything .
while i don't agree with how cleary worded it i do agree with the gist of his opinion about its your own fault when you miss. i don;t blame that lil old lady for me missing out on a b& r...i blame myself for letting what she said get into my head.
This thread was intended more of "why do folks act this way". I think I clearly stated that I shoot better when I'm mad. I mean, I don't put up with a waitress with a bad attitude, or jerk off in a bar, why tolerate this crap. Just one of those things that makes you wonder what makes folks tick, and why others think we should bite our tongues at such nonsense.
I think there's any number of reasons that people act the way they do. But I would bet that you would find that the people that shake the change in their pockets, or wave their cue in your field of vision or whisper just loud enough to be distracting or various other behaviors are people that have very little in their lives that they feel good about. They compensate by being ultra competitive, winning at any cost, drinking too much, beating their children, wives, girlfriends. They're high impact people that don't feel anything unless they do it to the extream, and if you do it back it only fuels the fire. They're like Frank Burns, everything wrong in their lIves is somone else's fault. You have to deal with them in every walk of life, but to beat them you have redirect their focus. Try this: next time you know someone is trying to shark you if their girlfriend or wife is there turn and smile at them, give a little wave and make sure the sharker sees you do this. Giving your best effort doesn't mean you need to be a jerk.
...or I could be wrong and they could just be a bunch of bastards, either way, if they are inconsiderate assholes I'll still try to hit on their girlfriend or sleep with the their girl keeping score, you know....
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LOL. But probably true as well
I think going forward I will just go chalk up my cue, take a sip of my Dr. Pepper, and come back and fire the 8ball in at 100 MPH
forgive me for getting off track. guess i am getting like a lot of other posters on this forum.:grin-square:
with out really knowing the person that irked you off all i can do is guess.
1. it may be a thoughtless habit where they are conceding the match in their mind but not really conceding the match until the ball drops
2. maybe thay are in a hurry to just get the match over
3 it may be an intentional shark move.
you just need to realize ....not every one is as thought full and kind hearted as you. pool players are just a micro cosym of todays society as a whole . the world is full of greedy... thoughtless... selfish ...assholes and quite a few of them play pool. .
LOL. But probably true as well
I think going forward I will just go chalk up my cue, take a sip of my Dr. Pepper, and come back and fire the 8ball in at 100 MPH
Now your talkin!!!!
BTW, any idea what's going on with the signature cue?
LOL. But probably true as well
I think going forward I will just go chalk up my cue, take a sip of my Dr. Pepper, and come back and fire the 8ball in at 100 MPH
let me share an incident that happened to me at a bar one night.
it was one of those nights i could do no wrong and kept the table all night. most of the games were for 5.00 to 10.00 a rack.....depending on what my opponents wanted to play for. when it got to this young fellas turn he wanted to play for 20.00 and i said sure.
i broke and ran 3 balls....on my 4th shot the girl who was with him got up and starting swaying to the music the band was playing. i missed lol. she was a very attractive girl in a skimpy outfit. he ran 3 balls and missed. i got back up and ran my set and called the pocket for the 8 ball.
his girl got up again and got right in front of the pocket i called dancing provacatively this time. i smiled and tipped my cap to her and called the pocket again and sank the 8.
i walked up to him and took his 20. and said.....your girl is a beautififull distraction but its not snough to offset your shitty play.....do you wanna double it to 40.00 this time ? he walked out of the bar lol.
Yeah, I still have it, and have been asking where to send it. I want it out of my basement... So, somebody tell me where to ship this cue next, please !!!!1
Yeah.. there are few things that APA could add to clear things up and prevent issues like this. In another league I play in the rule is if a player is down shooting the money ball and the opposing team talks at all, they concede the game. General rule - keep your mouth closed when the other team is shooting the money ball.
I think its a subconscious recoil reaction. People tend to physically and mentally move away or distance themselves from any negative outcome.
Getting quarters ready, or simply rattling them to make sure they are near or have the correct amount measured is nothing more than the player mentally distancing themselves from the negative consequence (your impending win). In their mind, the next game starts once the quarters are dropped so they are already there mentally.
A very similar thing happens in poker. If the game has an ante/blinds, a player that has a week hand (i.e. planning on folding) they will tend to look at their chips or even put their hands on or measure the correct amount for the ante and/or blinds for the next hand. This obviously isn't a conscious decision as it has negative consequences for them; it's simply them moving on mentally in order to distance themselves from the current negative situation.
I think there are players in the APA (and other leagues) that understand this and feign ignorance but they would be your higher skill level players. If it's done by a 4 or lower, those folks in my opinion are acting that way subconsciously and not maliciously.
You didn't yell, "HEY, LEAVE THE GIRL!."? I'm sure she loves a winner
I would agree with you on this. I know when I make a mistake that I think is going to cost me the game, though I am a 6, I mentally check out and begin prepping myself for the next one. I have always thought of it as not wanting to dwell on my mistake. I honestly don't recall if I have gone for quarters, but I am sure I have at some point or another. The place I shoot out of 95% of the time has open tables though.
One of the biggest sharks I know is a 6 and on my team. He is constantly talking so people can hear him to "play with their minds" as he says. I just told him 3 weeks ago when he was doing it that there is a name for it. He asked what it was and I told him it is called Sharking and is considered poor sportsmanship and cheap play. He continues on..........
I do find his sharking appropriate when dealing with a slow player or coach to try to get them to speed up. They brought it upon themselves and deserve it for disrespecting their opponent, the table and the rest of the players time.
Maybe you're just sensitive.