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Mowem down

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The handicap limit is 23 in both 8 and 9 ball, but in 8 ball the highest skill level is 7 and in 9 ball its 9 shouldnt there be a adjustment for that ?.

If your a 9 you need to have some really low rated players on the team to be able to play, and IF you can find them, if they have any skill at all it wont be long till there rating goes up.
 
Mowem down said:
The handicap limit is 23 in both 8 and 9 ball, but in 8 ball the highest skill level is 7 and in 9 ball its 9 shouldnt there be a adjustment for that ?.

If your a 9 you need to have some really low rated players on the team to be able to play, and IF you can find them, if they have any skill at all it wont be long till there rating goes up.
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There are ones in nineball. You really need 2 ones on a team with a nine.
APA is not designed for the heavy hitters. APA is a great league for 1s,2s,3s,4s,and 5s.:smile:
 
that handicap system is why there is so much "sandbagging" in the apa. i dont know that changing the limit would help that, but players would play harder without fear of hurting their team handicap wise.
 
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My question is, if your handicap system works then why is there a limit that you could play in a match? More often than not a 8 or 9 is not going to lose to a considerably lower player. But it does happen, But they know that the system doesn't work so that's why they had to implement this rule. I've seen some team go out to vegas with 1 strong player and several 3,4,5's and do fairly well. With the lower handicaps, if they are strong within their skill level, or your got a player that plays better against a higher skilled player, your margine of victor is higher, and if they do lose it'll be closer than if you went heads up. Just something I try and think of when I'm putting together my teams.
 
Milo said:
There are ones in nineball. You really need 2 ones on a team with a nine.
APA is not designed for the heavy hitters. APA is a great league for 1s,2s,3s,4s,and 5s.:smile:
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I have never scene a 1 and really dont think i would like too. The 2 on my team is so bad, the only reason you watch (part of his match) befor you fell like you need a shower is the humor.
 
bankshot76 said:
My question is, if your handicap system works then why is there a limit that you could play in a match?
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The demand for lower rated players keeps new members coming in and paying dues. Its all about the money, not the players or fairness. :(
 
Mowem down said:
I have never scene a 1 and really dont think i would like too. The 2 on my team is so bad, the only reason you watch (part of his match) befor you fell like you need a shower is the humor.
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Everyone has to start somewhere. If you find humor with the beginners, instead of helping them, then I would say APA is not for you.
IMO, the job of the heavy hitters is to teach, coach, and mentor them.
This is the reason why I dont play APA. I have already been down the path of being a captain and helping the beginners. I have done my time.:D
 
Milo said:
Everyone has to start somewhere. If you find humor with the beginners, instead of helping them, then I would say APA is not for you.
IMO, the job of the heavy hitters is to teach, coach, and mentor them.
This is the reason why I dont play APA. I have already been down the path of being a captain and helping the beginners. I have done my time.:D
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Dont be making conclusions there. I never said the humor comes from spite, and you dont know the guy, he is Homer Simpsons lost brother. He even laughs when I yell at him "what the hell are you doing shoot the damn ball" after he's been pondering some shot for 2 min that is straight in.

It might not be nice to watch and I might not want my hopes and dreams riding on his stick but out of all the 2's I've had I like him the best he is a funny guy.

As far as help him I do what I can, but the bottom line, I'm a 8 he stays a 2, sorry, thank the APA. There are 4 players on my team I could make a full ball better quick, thats going to do what break up the team, I dont think so, we got a city birth in 8 and 9 ball for the second year. This is however going to be my last full time spot on the team I cant tell you how tired I am of playing at places like the Sports page, Jacks, JJ's, and all the other great places you have to play with their top notch tables. And dont even say it Im not going to set aside a night of my time to go out to City Lights and play on those 7fters aint happening. If it were up to me we would all be playing 10 ball on 10 fters with 4 1/2 inch pockets, straight pool and 1 pocket
 
desmocourtney said:
The demand for lower rated players keeps new members coming in and paying dues. Its all about the money, not the players or fairness. :(
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Exactly. You won't find no adjustment for higher players in the APA.Thats is why once your players get raised you need to recruit grandma so the team can play. Do yourself a favor and find another league.
 
I gotta agree

Milo said:
Everyone has to start somewhere. If you find humor with the beginners, instead of helping them, then I would say APA is not for you.
IMO, the job of the heavy hitters is to teach, coach, and mentor them.
This is the reason why I dont play APA. I have already been down the path of being a captain and helping the beginners. I have done my time.:D
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Well Milo, Been there and done it myself. Been captain before and all I can say is it takes immense patience to watch a pair of 2's shoot at the same ball for 20 or 30 minutes.. I had to leave it behind or I was gonna lose my mind!
What bothered me most was many of the low ranked players never really tried to get better even when I offered to tutor them, they were just out to drink/socialize and not truly play pool. When I reached that point of understanding I quit for good.
Dan
 
A 9 has to be very patient and be willing to sit and coach most of the time.
I am ranked as a 9 in APA 9 ball and gave up on that league a couple of years ago. `

I will admit my blood pressure is a Lot lower now on Wend. nights....
 
Everyone in this thread is correct,except making fun of someone,but I know what you're saying. APA is for beginners,MONEY and lower ranked players. We split up 3 good teams because of the 23 rule in 9 ball and there never gonna change it, we were honest and played what we were, no sandbagging. We no longer play Apa because of the sb-ing. Not *****ing I hope but here, you can't go anywhere unless you have an under rated team, it's just the way it is,here anyway. I'm on better leagues with better hc systems that are fare,cheaper and fun! This is only my opinion and all your posts above are great... Ron
 
desmocourtney said:
The demand for lower rated players keeps new members coming in and paying dues. Its all about the money, not the players or fairness. :(
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It's a big pyramid scheme. The 23 rule makes it almost impossible to keep a team together when skills go up, so wives, girlfriends, brothers, sisters, parents with low skill levels join to keep teams from being too top heavy.
 
Someday, I wanna meet a really good player who gives a shit enough about pool league to devise a sandbagging scheme.

To me, it's like a pro baseball player going to the local park where older people enjoy a quiet softball game on Sundays... pretending all year he can't hit past the big tree on the right.

Towards the end of the summer when everyone is betting dinner and drinks on whose team wins, the pro slugger bashes it over the park's chain-link fence, repeatedly, to collect.

If you wanna go to Vegas....Orbitz and Priceline have some good deals - you can go now.

You can say this and that about free hotel and airfare to Vegas, but if you figure how long pool league is and how many cash games you can get on the side (if you're that good anyways), couldn't you send yourself to Hawaii at the end of the season....even if you only clear $50/night gambling instead of pool league??

Am I missing something???
 
Absolutely! If I want to go to Vegas, I'll go to Vegas. If I want to play pool, I will play pool!

League play is fun, I meet a lot of other dedicated players, and we get to play a lot of pool. I will get on the practice with some of the other top players between matches, and also spend time with the lower sl players helping them improve. If you play league for the chance to go to Vegas, you are missing out on all the enjoyment that leagues can offer. It is what you make it.

Steve
 
We used to have a player who is nothing but an APA 9, and would be higher if there were a SL for it.

IMO, as said, an APA SL9 has really no place on a competitive APA team, unless your other players are underrated and/or sandbagging.

Our SL9 shooter, on his way to needing 75 balls, he would seem to be making six or seven balls a pop, and wind up losing a big split to a SL5 who needs half the amount of balls he needs to win.

APA nine ball, IMO, is a heck of a lot of fun, and a real good way to introduce the game to beginners and novices shooters in a league format. Some of my most memorable and fun matches have been APA nine ball.
 
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