Great points in that article. I personally prefer the Aramith Pro-Cup cue ball over any other.
ARAMITH BALLS: "That's how I roll!"
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I've played with all the sets and i'm an Aramith and Simonis Dealer. I like the cyclop balls, they play well. I do not like their cue ball. Something funny about the way it rolls and takes English. It also plays lighter than anything Aramith has. I own Aramith Tournament set for my personal table and also Aramith Premiums. Love both sets. I switch between the black emblem Aramith saluc ball, the red dot, the blue saluc symbol, and the Measles. I prefer the measles over everything, but practice with all of them so that i'm used to them when I play other places. I'm not sure about phenolic content in any of these sets but I have been using my tournament set for three years and they still look like new when i clean them. You can tell because the stripes never get used lol.
I still don't see any comments (but few) about Cyclop CB behaviour, to me the way it rolls seems "uneven" and it seems to maintain less side english upon rolling, two things that certainly affect estimation of CB route..
At least this feature has to be improved imho.
Petros
At least this feature has to be improved imho.
Petros
Yes I have seen it in more than 5 centennial ball sets. Cliff Joyner pointed it out to me
Actually, it not a "kitty" move. They are probably tired of dealing with competitors who are making inferior billiard balls, and want to point out the difference. If any competitor wants to dispute it, have at it. But I doubt any will. Sounds like some other country may be "knocking" off Aramith design, or claims to be as good.
But in my mind, there is only one. Who would play with anything else. Funny, they can duplicate lots of stuff in "other" countries, but some things they just can't seem to get right... I think billiard balls is one on them. A friend of mine bought a no name set made in China, and they look "off". They played fine (only played on hour) but they just were "off" in the looks...
I have an original set of Centennials that I bought NIB last year from a guy who used to own a room. They were immaculate, without a hairline scratch or polisher mark anywhere, so I know they were unused, even though they are over 20 years old (white and blue box). They have received very light use since I got them, less than 500 hours I would guess. I doubt there is any weight loss that could be measured, even using an expensive lab balance.
I took my Ohaus Triple Beam apart and cleaned it carefully, then balanced it so that the damper stopped the beam right on the line 10 out of 10 times, so I know it's reading very accurate. I then placed exactly 5 grams worth of folded paper towels on the tray so the balls wouldn't roll off. Using exactly 5 gr. made calculating the tare very easy. I weighed each ball three times, just to make sure I didn't make any errors (I didn't).
Below are the results. As you can see, the weight tolerances are very tight. +/- 0.5 grams for the most part. Heaviest ball was the 8, which was a mere 0.72 grams above the average weight. Close enough IMO.
I took my Ohaus Triple Beam apart and cleaned it carefully, then balanced it so that the damper stopped the beam right on the line 10 out of 10 times, so I know it's reading very accurate. I then placed exactly 5 grams worth of folded paper towels on the tray so the balls wouldn't roll off. Using exactly 5 gr. made calculating the tare very easy. I weighed each ball three times, just to make sure I didn't make any errors (I didn't).
Below are the results. As you can see, the weight tolerances are very tight. +/- 0.5 grams for the most part. Heaviest ball was the 8, which was a mere 0.72 grams above the average weight. Close enough IMO.
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Thank you SloppyPockets.....you know the triple beam results are accurate otherwise the scale wouldn't
balance and you'd immediately spot it. Ohaus is a great scale for doing reloads and this is what I expected.
Aramith's Brunswick Centennial series rates #1 in appearance and these really tight tolerances should help
Centennial balls rank it #1 in every aspect. Besides, the Brunswick cue ball doesn't have any issues either.
Matt B.
balance and you'd immediately spot it. Ohaus is a great scale for doing reloads and this is what I expected.
Aramith's Brunswick Centennial series rates #1 in appearance and these really tight tolerances should help
Centennial balls rank it #1 in every aspect. Besides, the Brunswick cue ball doesn't have any issues either.
Matt B.
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People with too much time on their hands ITT.
Obviously, Aramith sees the unnamed competitor as a threat, or they wouldn't have bothered with anything. Eventually, someone was going to come out with a well made, less expensive alternative to Aramith. It was only a matter of time. Aramith can either find a way to lower their prices while maintaining quality, or they can become like the big 3 of Detroit.
Obviously, Aramith sees the unnamed competitor as a threat, or they wouldn't have bothered with anything. Eventually, someone was going to come out with a well made, less expensive alternative to Aramith. It was only a matter of time. Aramith can either find a way to lower their prices while maintaining quality, or they can become like the big 3 of Detroit.
Is this really that hard?
They both make a good set of balls. One set just happens to be FAR less money. I like how some people are all anti China. That's about the best and only reason not to get a set.
Cyclops are what the pro's will be playing with at BCA nationals, and DCC, so that's good enough for me. I'll just keep slumming it with my $150 ball set that are only within +/- 0.5 grams of each other...
They both make a good set of balls. One set just happens to be FAR less money. I like how some people are all anti China. That's about the best and only reason not to get a set.
Cyclops are what the pro's will be playing with at BCA nationals, and DCC, so that's good enough for me. I'll just keep slumming it with my $150 ball set that are only within +/- 0.5 grams of each other...
Sorry Sean, I thought this exciting, fascinating thread on "weighing pool balls" needed something to liven it up a
little bit !...It was becoming as boring as one of those, "What is your favorite chalk" threads. (of which there are at least one a week)..Talk about 'mental instability' here on AZB !
As our self appointed watchdog, (for 'staying on topic') maybe I should have joined in on one of YOUR thrilling, 'non-libtard' threads. You obviously could have used some help on this exciting subject ! :boring2: :boring2: (very few replies ?)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=364871
And you forgot to jump on my "#1 fan", for going off topic and drawing up 'pool room designs' ???
SJD
PS..However, I must admit, I'd rather listen to bad 'rap' music, than watch your band of APA "roadies" butcher an 8ball game..or worse yet, sweat a boring 14.1 game..Even Schmidt vs. Harriman, couldn't keep me awake !
[...facepalm...]
Dick, is this the best you can do? You lose [easily] at the debate, so you sideline and go after one of someone's two favorite games listed in their avatar? (Interesting that you didn't go after the other game listed.
) Or, you go after a thread the other person created that has nothing at all to do with the current topic? Using our shakey hands to grasp at straws, are we?May as well reach into the napkin dispenser and start throwing napkins at me -- just as effective as what you're throwing currently.
-Sean
ARAMITH BALLS ? vs: Cyclop balls
GREAT example of how consistent the weight of each. I've played a set since they came out and WOW ! they stay cleaner longer, look traditional, less expensive than Aramith Super Pro or Aramith Tournament or Centennial Set. THE best value out there for ball sets. (I did switch out the cue ball for a red circle ball).
GREAT example of how consistent the weight of each. I've played a set since they came out and WOW ! they stay cleaner longer, look traditional, less expensive than Aramith Super Pro or Aramith Tournament or Centennial Set. THE best value out there for ball sets. (I did switch out the cue ball for a red circle ball).
Weight is only one part of the ball though. How round is it? How is the material with elasticity and surface grab (how do they react when they contact each other)?
Once you replace the cueball the Cyclop set plays pretty well, but it does not quite react the same way as the Centenials or Aramith Pro sets do. You can tell there is a difference with how the cueball rebounds off them,
I didn't read this whole thread so I hope I'm not repeating someone.
I played with a set of Cyclops balls which were of the first made. That set of balls was fantastic! I loved the way the cue ball reacted and it seemed I knew exactly where it was going to go nearly every time.
Now, I played with a set of Cyclops balls which were purchased this year. I have to admit, the cue ball is unpredictable! In fact, I hate it and I have been a big proponent of Cyclops since the beginning.
By the way, the old set of Cyclops still plays great!
I played with a set of Cyclops balls which were of the first made. That set of balls was fantastic! I loved the way the cue ball reacted and it seemed I knew exactly where it was going to go nearly every time.
Now, I played with a set of Cyclops balls which were purchased this year. I have to admit, the cue ball is unpredictable! In fact, I hate it and I have been a big proponent of Cyclops since the beginning.
By the way, the old set of Cyclops still plays great!
I bought a set recently and will have to test the cue ball for accuracy. I hit the cue ball so hard and miss so often that it probably won't matter if it rolls off a bit at slow speeds.
JoeyA