aramith super pros...

alstl

alstl

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I've been playing with a set of aramith super pros and I suspected they were slightly larger than the balls at a couple pool rooms I frequent, so today I checked it out. I took a dial caliper with me to the pool room and sure enough, my aramiths are indeed slightly larger than the brunswicks at the pool room.

Has anybody else experienced this or did I just get a batch that was a little oversized?
 
alstl said:
I've been playing with a set of aramith super pros and I suspected they were slightly larger than the balls at a couple pool rooms I frequent, so today I checked it out. I took a dial caliper with me to the pool room and sure enough, my aramiths are indeed slightly larger than the brunswicks at the pool room.

Has anybody else experienced this or did I just get a batch that was a little oversized?
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I don't think that's unusual at all, especially since you were presumably comparing new balls to worn balls (and they might have been smaller or made to less stringent tolerances to begin with).

I never say "The Aramiths are larger" I always say "These crappy ones are smaller" :D
 
JustPlay said:
Pool rooms rarely change balls. Pool balls wear down over time from use.
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Yup. Go back there with the calipers and compare the sizes of the cue ball in
your Super Pro set with the balls in the Pool Hall, you will almost certainly find an even larger difference as the cue balls wear faster than the object balls.

FWIW, I have been personally underwhelmed by how the Super Pros wear even in light personal/home use. They chip much more easily than I'd like (Usually from badly-seated pocket nails) and it is very hard to retain their finish using only the Aramith ball polish and cleaning them by hand. Additionally I do not like how easily the Pro Cup "Measles" cue ball or Aramith Logo cue ball pick up marks. My trusty old Aramith Red Circle cue ball still looks better than their new cue balls after 4 years.
 
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alstl said:
... Has anybody else experienced this or did I just get a batch that was a little oversized?
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This is a frequently asked question and the answer is #29 in the RSB FAQ list which is available at:

http://www.sfbilliards.com/faq.html

This was also a recent topic in RSB, and Pat Johnson came up with an easy way to measure how much a cue ball is bigger or smaller than the object balls. Try to freeze six object balls around the cue ball, such that only one gap is left. If the cue ball is large, the gap will be between two object balls, but if the cue ball is small, the gap will be between an object ball and the cue ball. The amazing result is that in either case, if you divide the gap by 3 the result is how much larger or smaller the object balls are compared to the cue ball.

This measurement technique is described with diagrams in the December issue of Billiards Digest. Also described there is how much the different weight cue ball will change your draw and follow distances. If both the cue ball and object balls are worn down the same amount, then you won't notice much difference when changing between old sets and new sets.

All of the new Aramith balls I've measured recently have been much more accurate than the equipment spec which is +-0.005 inches of diameter.
 
JustPlay said:
Pool rooms rarely change balls. Pool balls wear down over time from use.
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And as to why, it's helpful to know what chalk is made of.
 
(imo)

alstl said:
I've been playing with a set of aramith super pros and I suspected they were slightly larger than the balls at a couple pool rooms I frequent, so today I checked it out. I took a dial caliper with me to the pool room and sure enough, my aramiths are indeed slightly larger than the brunswicks at the pool room.

Has anybody else experienced this or did I just get a batch that was a little oversized?
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The ONLY consistent and reliable pool balls are Brunswick Centennials with the original blue circle that comes with the set.
I have had all the other various brands tested by an old friend in the jewelry business and he used a diamond scale and an exact measurement tool. He also owned a billiard supply room and had access to many NEW sets of balls.
It wasn't even close - The Brunswick’s were THE ONLY ONES THAT CAME UP CONSISTANT and (if you think about where the balls are hitting the rails on impact) THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.

TY & GL
 
racer rx said:
Excellent information...

does the weight of the ball set affect the amount of draw or spin?
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Only slightly, but to a keen feel of a stroke, it is noticable.

Physics is physics.
 
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